• wejo
      co-founder
      • Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 3:21PM
      • wejo
        co-founder
      • I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

        Schippers false started blatantly in the 200. They called everyone back She pointed at her ears like she couldn't hear. They let her run (presumably under protest)

        Stuart Storey on the international broadcast didn't like the decision.

        Ato Boldon on the NBCSN broadcast understood what was going on saying, " Ato Boldon, on the NBCSN broadcast said, “the thing to do if you can't hear and are in the blocks is to race your hand... she's Dutch but she's got a big following in Scandinavia and I think that is the only reason she's been allowed back in. You don't get to just break before the gun and say "oh yeah noise in the crowd (made me false start)". Technically she's supposed to be out.â€

        After Schippers ran (presumably under protest) and won, she was DQd.

        I personally and fine with how they handled it. The people paid to see Schippers, let her run, and DQ her after it.

        Not having her run, doesn't benefit anyone in my book. Athletes also are allowed to run under protest. At Worlds or whatnot, they can settle the protests before the race is run.
    • the answer is no, money counts
      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 3:40PM - in reply to wejo
      • the answer is no, money counts
      • The question is, would any of the other runners be allowed to run if they "blatantly false started"?
    • douglas burke
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      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 3:50PM - in reply to wejo
      • douglas burke
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      • Didn't the same thing happen a year or two ago with Dawn Harper Nelson? she clearly false started, was originally disqualified and they let her run anyway, Dawn Harper Nelson is great, but does not have the same marquee value, yet like Schippers she was allowed to run.

        Not that surprising they let stars get away with things, like if Usain Bolt False started anywhere in the World and was disqualified, the crowd would be very mad, that said rules SHOULD BE applied equally to all, fairness is paramount in sports.
    • Naglfar
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      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 4:11PM - in reply to wejo
      • Naglfar
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      • wejo wrote:After Schippers ran (presumably under protest) and won, she was DQd.
        Now reinstated.
    • Tgirl
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      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 5:18PM - in reply to Naglfar
      • Tgirl
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      • Naglfar wrote:
        wejo wrote:After Schippers ran (presumably under protest) and won, she was DQd.
        Now reinstated.
        Now DQd.
    • Tgirl
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      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 5:23PM - in reply to Tgirl
      • Tgirl
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      • Oops sorry

        IAAF site has Schippers winning
    • Not even that dum
      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 5:30PM - in reply to the answer is no, money counts
      • Not even that dum
      • the answer is no, money counts wrote:
        The question is, would any of the other runners be allowed to run if they "blatantly false started"?
        no because the fans aren't there to see other runners they're there to see DS.

        Sports are entertainment.
    • LetsRun.com
      your benevolent dictator
      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 6:33PM - in reply to Tgirl
      • LetsRun.com
        your benevolent dictator
      • Tgirl wrote:
        Oops sorry

        IAAF site has Schippers winning
        She has been put back in as the winner.

        Women's results

        200 Metres - Women Wind: +1.4 m/s
        Pts
        1 Schippers , Dafne NED 22.31 8
        2 Ahouré , Murielle CIV 22.74 7
        3 Facey , Simone JAM 22.77 6
        4 Lückenkemper , Gina GER 23.04 5
        5 Williams , Bianca GBR 23.38 4
        6 Nelson , Ella AUS 23.42 3
        7 Gonska , Nadine GER 23.48 2
        Lalova-Collio , Ivet BUL DQ
    • Gotta bee
      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 6:43PM - in reply to douglas burke
      • Gotta bee
      • Bolt has been dqd before tho...
        In fact he was one of the first victims of the one false start rule.

        I don't think there's any problem with her running and being dqd after the fact, besides it's good for everyone involved
        Makes everyone else run better, crowd is happy, and if there was some good reason for her not be dqd (which apparently there was since she was reinstated) then she gets her time, if she doesn't run that's not possible.
    • Ben L Wrong
      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 7:16PM - in reply to Gotta bee
      • Ben L Wrong
      • Its unfair to other athletes. Yohan Blake false-started last year in olympic trials, but people started with the boos, and he was reinstated.
    • Invitational meet
      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 7:57PM - in reply to wejo
      • Invitational meet
      • It happened in an invitational meet. People pay to see the top athletes and if she said she couldn't hear the gun well then she got the benefit of the doubt. It's a judgement call by the officials and in fairness it can be hard to hear the gun depending on the crowd.
    • calling a trowel a trowel
      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 8:31PM - in reply to wejo
      • calling a trowel a trowel
      • if she did not hear the gun she would still be in the blocks

        if the ambient noise mimicked the sound of the gun then she would have started to a 'false gun'
    • jjdd
      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/15/2017 9:05PM - in reply to douglas burke
      • jjdd
      • douglas burke wrote:
        Didn't the same thing happen a year or two ago with Dawn Harper Nelson? she clearly false started, was originally disqualified and they let her run anyway, Dawn Harper Nelson is great, but does not have the same marquee value, yet like Schippers she was allowed to run.

        Not that surprising they let stars get away with things, like if Usain Bolt False started anywhere in the World and was disqualified, the crowd would be very mad, that said rules SHOULD BE applied equally to all, fairness is paramount in sports.
        Not the same thing at all under pertinent rule. Harper obviously flinched in the blocks but, after conferring with the officials and looking at the read-outs, she correctly pointed out to them that her feet had maintained pressure on the blocks. There is no judgment involved in that situation. If the athlete does not technically false start she cannot be DQd on a first violation.

        Schippers, by contrast, simply left early and there is no good reason under IAAF rules for her to be reinstated.
    • bhilden
      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/16/2017 1:50AM - in reply to wejo
      • bhilden
      • I think it is also worth mentioning that winning a Diamond League race includes a $50,000 first prize. The official who reinstated her gave her a $50,000 gift and screwed the second place runner and everyone else in the race out of thousands of dollars. Fair is fair, but money is, well, money.
    • ADA
      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/16/2017 2:23AM - in reply to wejo
      • ADA
      • “the thing to do if you can't hear and are in the blocks is to race your hand..
        Stupid question. What do they do for deaf sprinters?
    • scorpion_runner
      • RE: Dafne Schippers Blatantly False Starts in 200 in Oslo But is Allowed to Run 6/16/2017 10:54AM - in reply to bhilden
      • scorpion_runner
      • bhilden wrote:
        I think it is also worth mentioning that winning a Diamond League race includes a $50,000 first prize. The official who reinstated her gave her a $50,000 gift and screwed the second place runner and everyone else in the race out of thousands of dollars. Fair is fair, but money is, well, money.
        The athlete gets 50,000 for winning the the Diamond League event for the season, not for each race. An athlete gets 10,000 for winning a Diamond League race.