Who is the best 1500m runner/miler that you are confident isn't/wasn't doping?

Dennis T Reynolds wrote:

Asbel Asbel wrote:

Kiprop. He's just that talented. He was already one of the top junior runners. Just like why I don't think Bolt is a doper. Anyone who's already the best from a young age has no reason to dope. It's just a natural growth curve for them.

Thank you for including someone of color. It's funny how in a thread about people who didn't dope they only include white people.

Some a$$hole always has to bring race into everything. Always. Never fails. No matter what it is.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Makhloufi was about to fail a test in London that is why he threw the 800m.

I don't follow you on this one. Makhloufi won the 1500, which was contested from Aug 3-7. The qualifying rounds for the 800 started on the 6th, with the finals on the 9th. He DNF'd in one of the primarily rounds. When he won the 1500, he passed the routine drug control for all medalists. So, if he wasn't glowing during the 15 (and presumably clean), why would he throw the 800 if he just passed a drug control when he won gold a day earlier? 🤔

Jason Pyrah (BYU graduate) 👍

John Utah wrote:

Dennis T Reynolds wrote:

Thank you for including someone of color. It's funny how in a thread about people who didn't dope they only include white people.

Some a$$hole always has to bring race into everything. Always. Never fails. No matter what it is.

Someone already alluded to Coe's part-Indian heritage: I believe Coe is 1/8th Indian.

El G

Ivan Heshko 🍸

Jules "Julot" Ladoumegue ;)

The rest are all juicers

Kiprop.

I definitely would not automatically assume Coe/Cram were clean for some reason.

Oh, but the better answer for me would be none of them.

I'm not confident that any of them aren't doping.

Steve Scott, Steve Cram, Jim Spivey, Alan Webb

Another name for this thread could be "Who is your favorite white English-speaking runner?"

Because if he was tested on the 6th (which he wasn't) he would have failed. His system had to be clean for testing on the 7th, which it was. Trust me I have friends in high places (who are furious about this one, Ramzi no.2).

Mark: twain wrote:

John Utah wrote:

Some a$$hole always has to bring race into everything. Always. Never fails. No matter what it is.

Someone already alluded to Coe's part-Indian heritage: I believe Coe is 1/8th Indian.

1/4. Maternal father was Indian

Andrew Wheating without a doubt

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Because if he was tested on the 6th (which he wasn't) he would have failed. His system had to be clean for testing on the 7th, which it was. Trust me I have friends in high places (who are furious about this one, Ramzi no.2).

Trust me, no one believes you, an anonymous poster on the least reliable message board in sport.

Makh dropped out most likely because he realised two events was too much. With Kiprop reportedly struggling he knew he could win the 1500 but might not make the 800 final.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Because if he was tested on the 6th (which he wasn't) he would have failed. His system had to be clean for testing on the 7th, which it was. Trust me I have friends in high places (who are furious about this one, Ramzi no.2).

Still not following you on this one. The prelims for the 800 were on Aug 6 (Mon) and the semi's the next day on the 7th. The 1500 final was on Aug 7th, so how was Makhloufi suppose to advance from the prelims and run in the semi's of the 800 on the same day as the 1500 final? 🤔. And he would have been tested the next day (7th) after winning gold in the 1500. It's my understanding that Makhloufi wanted to focus on the 1500 and Algerian Athletic Federation failed to withdrawal him from the 800.

I'm not saying one way or another whether Makhloufi is clean or doped, but it just seems corny to accuse an athlete of wanting to avoid a drug test by dropping out of a prelim of an Olympic event (why show up in the first place?). On the video of the 800 prelims the announcers talked about his DNF at 20:00 mins in (and FWIW, I would be careful with those friends in "high places" 😉).

800ftw. wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Because if he was tested on the 6th (which he wasn't) he would have failed. His system had to be clean for testing on the 7th, which it was. Trust me I have friends in high places (who are furious about this one, Ramzi no.2).

Trust me, no one believes you, an anonymous poster on the least reliable message board in sport.

Makh dropped out most likely because he realised two events was too much. With Kiprop reportedly struggling he knew he could win the 1500 but might not make the 800 final.

Makhloufi, a man with links to Jama Aden, is a cyborg, he is most likely taking the Russian cocktail including xenon gas (and probably igf -1 lr3). This gas has a short life potency (only hours). Only idiots believe this man is clean. Virtually none of the elites are. Especially not a guy who leaves all the other microdosers in his dust.

Horrendously Gassed wrote:

Makhloufi, a man with links to Jama Aden, is a cyborg, he is most likely taking the Russian cocktail including xenon gas (and probably igf -1 lr3). This gas has a short life potency (only hours). Only idiots believe this man is clean. Virtually none of the elites are. Especially not a guy who leaves all the other microdosers in his dust.

Too funny...the Russians and their "cocktail" left nothing but a path of carnage. They lead the world by leaps & bounds in biological passport violations. They've had numerous drug positives over the last several years. Most of their Olympic & WC medalists from the last several years have been stripped & disgraced. They doped with old fashioned roids like it was the 70s or something. And they keep misunderstanding that the Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) discourages, not encourages, EPO use/blood doping.

Yeah...great example with Russian-style doping 😁

Gunder Hagg