Why is LeBron James not considered better than MJ?

Lebrun James is a Hillary loving piece of trash.

Runningart2004 wrote:

HardLoper wrote:

People my age act nostalgic about MJ even though they were basically toddlers during his prime

If you count the number of individual awards Jordan is way ahead of everyone else....

MVP

Defenisve Player of the Year

Scoring Leader

Finals MVP

Etc...

Jordan was the NBA steals leader on 3 occasions....

10x scoring leader....

Defensive Player of the Year....

And led his team to 6 championships....

In an era where you could actually still play defense....

Alan

If leborn played during Jordans days he'd be averaging 60 points a game and they'd change the rulebook to stop him from blowing up defenders as a 250lb guy running at 4.4 speeds up and down the court.

Today's players are better athletes. I just want someone to explain why the bar for ball handling is lower IF they're better skilled.

King James wrote:

I agree that LeBron had a couple bad playoff games. With that said LeBron is better then MJ at basketball. LeBron beats Jordan one on one. LeBron beats MJ five on five with all other teammates equal. And I don't think it would even be close. To the people praising Jerry West for not traveling.....the players back then couldn't dribble with their left hands. Just watch the games. Players are better now. 30 years from now, there will likely be someone better then LeBron. Just the way it is

I'd bet a lot of the size and muscularity of Lebron, an advantage many posters keep pointing out as a reason he'd beat MJ in 1 on 1, is the result of copious amounts of HGH.

Bron fan wrote:

Lebron is 3" taller and about 50 lbs heavier than Jordan. He's a different breed of athlete. Most old guys like me don't want to admit it, but Lebron is clearly the better player.

I'm really surprised to see this kind of reasoning on a real runner's site. Any champion is measured not simply on their skills but on how great a champion they were. This is why Mike Tyson isn't the greatest heavyweight of all time -- he might have beaten Ali, Louis and Marciano, but he wasn't a great champion like they were, coming from behind to win big matches, losing and then winning world titles again, etc. Lebron may one day be as great as MJ, but as of now MJ is the greatest without question.

King James wrote:

To the people praising Jerry West for not traveling.....the players back then couldn't dribble with their left hands. Just watch the games.

I didn't have to go further than looking at the NBA logo to realize you're fabricating this. Jerry West is literally the logo. The logo is dribbling with his left hand. LMAO.

Magnum PU wrote:

King James wrote:

To the people praising Jerry West for not traveling.....the players back then couldn't dribble with their left hands. Just watch the games.

I didn't have to go further than looking at the NBA logo to realize you're fabricating this. Jerry West is literally the logo. The logo is dribbling with his left hand. LMAO.

POD! And the POD is about bball! Wow.

Here is why Lebron is way better than MJ:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/05/21/lebron-james-continues-build-legacy-off-court-family-foundation/101985154/

/ thread wrote:

10 seconds left in the game, down by 1. Who do you want with the ball - Lebron or MJ?

Jordan every single time and it's not even debatable.

+1

So, so true.

So, so unimportant.

because MJ is a great singer and le bron not a singer.

fhfhhf wrote:

When Jordan was playing they didn't allow traveling.

Or coming off illegal screens 12-15 times a game. LeBron wouldn't have free range to go to the basket with jabber, Ewing or Malone standing there. They would of our him on his ass.

I don't understand why everyone thinks that Jordan being the scoring champion every year is some great accomplishment. All it means is that he shot the ball more than everyone else.

As stated multiple times on this thread, Jordan led the league in scoring 10 times. He was in the top 2 in shots/game in every one of those seasons, leading the league in 7 of those years.

On average, Jordan attempted two shots more per game than the next closest person.

In the past 30 seasons, the scoring champ has been in the top 2 in shots/game every year, except 3. Kevin Durant twice (3rd & 4th shots/gm) and David Robinson (3rd shots/gm).

LeBron has been in the top 2 in shots/game exactly once in his career. He won the scoring title that year.

All being the scoring champ means, is that you shoot more than everyone else.

http://stats.nba.com/leaders#

!?Season=1986-87&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

o.O wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

If you count the number of individual awards Jordan is way ahead of everyone else....

MVP

Defenisve Player of the Year

Scoring Leader

Finals MVP

Etc...

Jordan was the NBA steals leader on 3 occasions....

10x scoring leader....

Defensive Player of the Year....

And led his team to 6 championships....

In an era where you could actually still play defense....

Alan

If leborn played during Jordans days he'd be averaging 60 points a game and they'd change the rulebook to stop him from blowing up defenders as a 250lb guy running at 4.4 speeds up and down the court.

Really?

1. There are no true big men anymore.

2. Hand checking would also have held him up.

3. Zone defense was not allowed in Jordans era.

4. Charging was called under the basket.

Alan

Jordan invented the two step and Lebron invented the two step and a crowhop. Other players only get one and a half step. Referee's invented the pho foul for Jordan. I have interviewed more than one referee who admitted off the record, they were instructed that if they thought Jordan should have hit the shot and missed, then in the best interest of the league it should be called a foul. Both are great players but the NBA cheated in there favor for ratings, kind of like taking epo and saying it is OK.

I'm interested to see how LJ bounces back after that garbage he rolled out there tonight. To old for a game every other day???

Runningart2004 wrote:

o.O wrote:

If leborn played during Jordans days he'd be averaging 60 points a game and they'd change the rulebook to stop him from blowing up defenders as a 250lb guy running at 4.4 speeds up and down the court.

Really?

1. There are no true big men anymore (Shaq would pose a serious problem for LeBron).

2. Hand checking would also have held him up.

3. Zone defense was not allowed in Jordans era.

4. Charging was called under the basket.

Alan

5. Jordan Rules. Blatant flagrant fouls.

Let me know when dig up footage of Jordan explaining away a weak performance in a playoff with the words "I'm glad it happened." You'd never hear that sort of drivel from Michael because he's a stone-cold killer who hated to lose and would not accept defeat.

Notice the title of the ESPN article linked below and the actual words from Lebron's mouth. They don't align.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19434585/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-no-hiding-lousy-performance