• Vegas Roller13
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 9:58AM - in reply to Peppers pot
      • Vegas Roller13
      • Peppers pot wrote:

        I know as much or more about running than anyone. Kipchoge is not going to get the marathon world record. He is now slightly past his prime so how the hell is he going to get a record he could not get in his prime? The Ethiopian he beat yesterday, Kitata, might get the record but Kipchoge cannot.

        No, you don't. And you're a coward as well. Post your email old fella and I'll take that bet...the one that you so conveniently ignored.

        LRN===Letsrun Nobody>>>Peppers pot
    • Peppers pot
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 10:06AM - in reply to Vegas Roller13
      • Peppers pot
      • Vegas Roller13 wrote:

        Peppers pot wrote:

        I know as much or more about running than anyone. Kipchoge is not going to get the marathon world record. He is now slightly past his prime so how the hell is he going to get a record he could not get in his prime? The Ethiopian he beat yesterday, Kitata, might get the record but Kipchoge cannot.

        No, you don't. And you're a coward as well. Post your email old fella and I'll take that bet...the one that you so conveniently ignored.

        LRN===Letsrun Nobody>>>Peppers pot

        True. There are many who know more, but I'm simply "guessing" and that's all I'm doing. If I'm right, then I'll be back. If not, I'll post under a different handle as I'd look the fool and be embarrassed if anyone knew who I was.
    • Samuel DeChamplain
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      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 10:11AM - in reply to Peppers pot
      • Samuel DeChamplain
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      • Peppers pot wrote:

        The attention is fine. Kipchoge will never hold the marathon world record. I really am making that point and I do think he might have had a shot at it if he had not done the sub 2 attempt. However the window is now shut. Having said that, Kipchoge might be better off for having received all this attention. That was never part of my point. Kipchoge could probably get more followers if he ran his next marathon naked. But he will never hold the world record, unless he became the owner of the fastest naked marathon.

        youre inferring the attention is negative and a waste, he did it by actually running not come costume gimmick....
        you clearly don't understand this sport the way you say you do or actually care about it, just your foolish notions and pride that you cant even back up with an email or real user name
    • Vegas Roller13
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 10:15AM - in reply to Samuel DeChamplain
      • Vegas Roller13
      • Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

        Peppers pot wrote:

        The attention is fine. Kipchoge will never hold the marathon world record. I really am making that point and I do think he might have had a shot at it if he had not done the sub 2 attempt. However the window is now shut. Having said that, Kipchoge might be better off for having received all this attention. That was never part of my point. Kipchoge could probably get more followers if he ran his next marathon naked. But he will never hold the world record, unless he became the owner of the fastest naked marathon.

        youre inferring the attention is negative and a waste, he did it by actually running not come costume gimmick....
        you clearly don't understand this sport the way you say you do or actually care about it, just your foolish notions and pride that you cant even back up with an email or real user name

        All true and I'd bet him in a heart beat! Kipchoge will get under David's record within 2 years at most. Flat course and cool weather and he'll do it. Peppers pot is a bean brain.
    • george oscar bluth
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      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 10:21AM - in reply to Peppers pot
      • george oscar bluth
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      • I don't think he'll get the record either, but his performances have earned him the GOAT status at the marathon distance, which I would think is a better outcome than just a WR.
    • wisenheimer at work
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 11:03AM - in reply to Peppers pot
      • wisenheimer at work
      • i can easily imagine that kipchoge is the man to break the wr, but there are a few unknown variables in the game like weather conditions and proper pacing. everything has to be just perfect and there are only just a few possibilities where it might happen.
    • the facts of life
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 11:57AM - in reply to Peppers pot
      • the facts of life
      • kipchoge - no marathon WR
        Evan Jager - no sub-8:00 steeplechase
        hillary clinton - no presidency
        genzebe dibaba - no one believes you're clean
    • explain some things
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 12:00PM - in reply to george oscar bluth
      • explain some things
      • george oscar bluth wrote:

        I don't think he'll get the record either, but his performances have earned him the GOAT status at the marathon distance, which I would think is a better outcome than just a WR.

        i agree with you, but why'd you pick a fictional character you didn't create to be your Ltn Username/handle?
    • Peppers pot
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 3:31PM - in reply to Vegas Roller13
      • Peppers pot
      • Vegas Roller13 wrote:

        Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

        Peppers pot wrote:

        The attention is fine. Kipchoge will never hold the marathon world record. I really am making that point and I do think he might have had a shot at it if he had not done the sub 2 attempt. However the window is now shut. Having said that, Kipchoge might be better off for having received all this attention. That was never part of my point. Kipchoge could probably get more followers if he ran his next marathon naked. But he will never hold the world record, unless he became the owner of the fastest naked marathon.

        youre inferring the attention is negative and a waste, he did it by actually running not come costume gimmick....
        you clearly don't understand this sport the way you say you do or actually care about it, just your foolish notions and pride that you cant even back up with an email or real user name

        All true and I'd bet him in a heart beat! Kipchoge will get under David's record within 2 years at most. Flat course and cool weather and he'll do it. Peppers pot is a bean brain.

        You likely have no money. You clearly are an idiot who does not even know who holds the world record in the marathon. The vast disparity in our respective intellects renders communication problematic, as my supremacy frustrates and humiliates you, to the point that you keep begging me for a wager so as to delude yourself into thinking you can be part of my orbit. Kipchoge will never hold the marathon world record and this is obvious to the intelligent.
    • ex-runner
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      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 3:49PM - in reply to Peppers pot
      • ex-runner
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      • Kipchoge can break the world record whenever he feels like it.

        If he runs the next Berlin it will be his.
    • ex-runner
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      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 4:05PM - in reply to Peppers pot
      • ex-runner
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      • I've just read some of your posts and they are mind-bogglingly arrogant and stupid.

        Kipchoge ran 2:04 low with a 61 flat first half, in 25C weather.

        That is worth a world record in perfect conditions right there.
    • Peppers pot
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 4:13PM - in reply to ex-runner
      • Peppers pot
      • ex-runner wrote:

        I've just read some of your posts and they are mind-bogglingly arrogant and stupid.

        Kipchoge ran 2:04 low with a 61 flat first half, in 25C weather.

        That is worth a world record in perfect conditions right there.

        You are the one who lacks intelligence. Kipchoge will NEVER hold the marathon world record. Kipchoge is PAST his prime, albeit slightly. How dense are you? Kipchoge is not stupid, but apparently you think he is.
    • Peppers pot
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 4:17PM - in reply to george oscar bluth
      • Peppers pot
      • george oscar bluth wrote:

        I don't think he'll get the record either, but his performances have earned him the GOAT status at the marathon distance, which I would think is a better outcome than just a WR.

        Yes, that is a different argument and I agree with this.
    • Stopcecil!
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      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 4:31PM - in reply to Peppers pot
      • Stopcecil!
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      • Peppers pot wrote:

        You can only go to the well so many times. Kipchoge had a chance to break the world record but that sub 2 hour attempt sealed his fate. Eliud will never break the world record now. Could he have? We will never know for sure.

        Kind of a dumb assertion. The only two marathons Kipchoge has run since that have been in horrible running conditions for a marathon. One was hot, one had pouring rain. If in Berlin it isn't either, he will likely smash it. You are just making a big assumption that he won't break it.
    • Peppers pot
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 4:42PM - in reply to Stopcecil!
      • Peppers pot
      • Stopcecil! wrote:

        Peppers pot wrote:

        You can only go to the well so many times. Kipchoge had a chance to break the world record but that sub 2 hour attempt sealed his fate. Eliud will never break the world record now. Could he have? We will never know for sure.

        Kind of a dumb assertion. The only two marathons Kipchoge has run since that have been in horrible running conditions for a marathon. One was hot, one had pouring rain. If in Berlin it isn't either, he will likely smash it. You are just making a big assumption that he won't break it.

        Thank you for your post. It perfectly illustrates how intelligence is not allocated in an equitable manner. You do not understand that Kipchoge has run many marathons now and in only one did he scare the world record. That one was the aberration. Kipchoge is amazingly consistent but now he is declining, again ever so slightly. You keep making excuses about the weather. The weather is rarely, if ever, ideal. Even in ideal weather, Kipchoge can no longer break the record, even if he once could. Time will prove me correct and the idiots will chime in about the weather as if they are meteorologists who understand precious little about high level marathon racing.
    • Peppers pot
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 4:51PM - in reply to Stopcecil!
      • Peppers pot
      • I will add that if conditions were so bad in Berlin last year, it is interesting that an Ethiopian debuted with a 2:03:46. Not a bad debut in such awful conditions,
    • ukathleticscoach
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      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 5:16PM - in reply to Peppers pot
      • ukathleticscoach
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      • He'd have done it in London if not too hot

        80f in sun
    • ex-runner
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      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 6:21PM - in reply to Peppers pot
      • ex-runner
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      • Peppers pot wrote:

        ex-runner wrote:

        I've just read some of your posts and they are mind-bogglingly arrogant and stupid.

        Kipchoge ran 2:04 low with a 61 flat first half, in 25C weather.

        That is worth a world record in perfect conditions right there.

        You are the one who lacks intelligence. Kipchoge will NEVER hold the marathon world record. Kipchoge is PAST his prime, albeit slightly. How dense are you? Kipchoge is not stupid, but apparently you think he is.

        Do you understand the effects of heat on marathon performance?

        Kipchoge's run in London when adjusted for the weather is worth well under the current WR.

        He lost at least 90 seconds due to the heat, and likely more time from the terrible pacing also. Low 2:04 in that weather is frankly astounding.

        His Berlin run against Adola turned into a race rather than a time trial anyway.
    • summing up the thread
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 6:46PM - in reply to ex-runner
      • summing up the thread
      • ex-runner wrote:

        Peppers pot wrote:

        ex-runner wrote:

        I've just read some of your posts and they are mind-bogglingly arrogant and stupid.

        Kipchoge ran 2:04 low with a 61 flat first half, in 25C weather.

        That is worth a world record in perfect conditions right there.

        You are the one who lacks intelligence. Kipchoge will NEVER hold the marathon world record. Kipchoge is PAST his prime, albeit slightly. How dense are you? Kipchoge is not stupid, but apparently you think he is.

        Do you understand the effects of heat on marathon performance?

        Kipchoge's run in London when adjusted for the weather is worth well under the current WR.

        He lost at least 90 seconds due to the heat, and likely more time from the terrible pacing also. Low 2:04 in that weather is frankly astounding.

        His Berlin run against Adola turned into a race rather than a time trial anyway.

        Agree, and if I remember correctly, conditions in Berlin '17 were not ideal either. In that sense, OP could be correct that Kipchoge could have wasted his chance at a WR, however, that statement would only be correct conditional on the fact that conditions in the races to follow were sub-optimal/ will be sub-optimal (at least Berlin '18 will be another good chance) AND conditions in London '17 were perfect (were they? I don't remember). Moreover, there is no indication that the sub2 attempt took so much out of Kipchoge that it affected his performance in the subsequent races negatively, otherwise his times right before the sub2 attempt should have been significantly better than after.

        TL,DR: OP's statement is a mostly wrong.
    • Vegas Roller13
      • RE: Eliud Kipchoge Blew His Chance to be WR Holder 4/24/2018 9:33PM - in reply to Peppers pot
      • Vegas Roller13
      • Peppers pot wrote:

        Vegas Roller13 wrote:

        Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

        Peppers pot wrote:

        The attention is fine. Kipchoge will never hold the marathon world record. I really am making that point and I do think he might have had a shot at it if he had not done the sub 2 attempt. However the window is now shut. Having said that, Kipchoge might be better off for having received all this attention. That was never part of my point. Kipchoge could probably get more followers if he ran his next marathon naked. But he will never hold the world record, unless he became the owner of the fastest naked marathon.

        youre inferring the attention is negative and a waste, he did it by actually running not come costume gimmick....
        you clearly don't understand this sport the way you say you do or actually care about it, just your foolish notions and pride that you cant even back up with an email or real user name

        All true and I'd bet him in a heart beat! Kipchoge will get under David's record within 2 years at most. Flat course and cool weather and he'll do it. Peppers pot is a bean brain.

        You likely have no money. You clearly are an idiot who does not even know who holds the world record in the marathon. The vast disparity in our respective intellects renders communication problematic, as my supremacy frustrates and humiliates you, to the point that you keep begging me for a wager so as to delude yourself into thinking you can be part of my orbit. Kipchoge will never hold the marathon world record and this is obvious to the intelligent.

        You're clearly a moron, as I posted who holds the world record and I was there in Berlin when David broke the record. As I said, put up or shut up little boy. I've met both David and Eliud and he will break David's record and then you and your 13 personalities will run like a little sissy boy.

        Put the money up or shut up. You said he'll "never" break the world record, I said he will. Your lack of knowledge in running is quite apparent, but are you dumb enough to bet? I thought not.

        Ever hear of Dubai, Paris, Rotterdam, Berlin, London on a cool day, etc...

        Gosh there are more than a few ignorant runners (joggers) on this site.