What kind of college coach doesn't let post-collegiate alumni PROS run on their track?

Vladimir wrote:

Don't be hard on the coach it may not be his call. The school may prohibit it for insurance reasons or other issues.

This.

To assume, as one earlier poster did, that in *every case* the coach who does this is "a douche"...is kind of douchey. Don't judge a situation until you know the situation.

alumpro wrote:

Oh BS! name A school that has a dedicated locker room for pro alumni.....just one.

And the majority of athletes that have gone pro probably never graduated. They came to school, got exposure, carried a 1.0 gpa and started looking for the pay check.

Will this suffice? Don't try to talk about stuff you don't understand. Also baylor isn't the only school. There are PLENTY of schools, they just dont advertise.

Just go to a state school and they have to let you run on the track except during practice times because the track team is actually paying the school to use the track. Yes, for those that don't know at state schools the track team pays to use the track. Of course, I'm sure the budget is inflated to allow for daily use of the track.

Penn State doesn't allow ANY non varsity runners on the track. The track was resurfaced in the fall for Big 10's and has been under 'construction' as a guise to keep students off it, obviously varsity is out there despite the 'dangerous conditions'...

Let's all be mad at Gondack together, maybe he reads this?

Vladimir wrote:

Don't be hard on the coach it may not be his call. The school may prohibit it for insurance reasons or other issues. With any open space there can always be issues. Would you expect to use the baseball/softball fields? How about the pool, basketball court, library, cafeteria, student lounge, etc. We as runners get a better chance than other sports. However some ruin it for the rest of us. Bikes, skateboards or sand fights in the long jump pits are a few examples. If you have a track that you are allowed to use count your blessings as they are becoming far and few between.

Don't rush to judgment. Liability concerns (courtesy of insurance carriers) often prevent persons other than CURRENT students/staff from using sports facilities. If you get hurt while using the facilities the school (and insurance company) is on the hook. In the litigious society in which we live restrictions like this are commonplace. I don't know of any colleges near me that would let me on their indoor tracks. If I did anyway I would face trespassing charges. We did this to ourselves with stupid lawsuits. Cut him some slack, I'm 99% certain it isn't the coach.

CU. Wetmore wont let anyone touch his track. When Emma left him and Burroughs., rumor is they tried to ban even her from using the track. Boulder community is not allowed on the track at anytime.

Total Lo$er wrote:

Grammar Hammer wrote:

*an alumus

Singular.

*alumnus

Irony is beautiful, isn't it? It might be wise to keep your own junk seamless before pointing out the mistakes of others.

Actuallllly, since we do not know the gender of the original poster, the proper term in the nominative neutral gender. In this case Alumnum (singular) and Alumni (plural).

Not true. Open to the public 7-9:30AM M-F.

Yep, that is one heck of a football program that Baylor has got there, they need to bring back their only 3 graduates to inspire those remarkable rapist undergrads. Enlighten us with the graduation rates of that football program.

Those 3 need that locker room while they work on getting back to the NFL...good luck

Pretty sure Wetmore does this

alumpro wrote:

Oh BS! name A school that has a dedicated locker room for pro alumni.....just one.

And the majority of athletes that have gone pro probably never graduated. They came to school, got exposure, carried a 1.0 gpa and started looking for the pay check.

Vanderbilt has a locker room solely for the use of their former baseball players who are now pros.I think they are planning to expand it (or may have already done so). I am sure they are not he only school doing something like this.

When I was in college in the late 80s early 90s, our div I football stadium was open all day. Anyone could come in and use the track or do stadium steps. The only time it was closed was for games and team practices. People would even come and lay out in the sun in the spring time to get a tan.

But with the running boom, a lot of college tracks got filled up with running groups doing workouts. And lots of NCAA stadiums got big upgrades and had to be kept locked up all the time. Then, there were also concerns about campus security. So now it is the norm that tracks are kept under lock and key and only school teams can use them.

JAD wrote:

Vanderbilt has a locker room solely for the use of their former baseball players who are now pros.I think they are planning to expand it (or may have already done so). I am sure they are not he only school doing something like this.

I think most Div I T&F and XC programs should build a separate facility for their alumni. How much could a new 400m track with runways and throwing areas for the field events possibly cost?

alumpro wrote:

Oh BS! name A school that has a dedicated locker room for pro alumni.....just one.

And the majority of athletes that have gone pro probably never graduated. They came to school, got exposure, carried a 1.0 gpa and started looking for the pay check.

Baylor has one for football players

Y'all jus' jealous!

I went to a state school in CA. Intercollegiate athletics didn't control the sports facilities. "Sports Facilities" was it's own little bureaucratic empire. If you weren't on a team you had to buy a rec card to use any of the sports facilities. Alumni are eligible to buy rec cards.

... but I have to give credit where it's due. When Duke completed its beautiful new track facility a couple of years ago, they sent out an email to the local running clubs letting us know we were welcome to use the track other than certain blocked-out times when their teams had practice. We've used it often without incident ever since. Ironic considering that there are crappy asphalt high school tracks in the area that remain locked up tight with prominent "no trespassing" signs, but the new, nice, expensive Duke track is open to the public.

The NCAA Division 1 rules have been updated to include the 1992 Interpretation:

14.2 Full-Time Enrollment - 14.2.1 Requirement for Practice:

4.2.1.7 Exception—Former Student Participating in Practice on an Occasional Basis—Sports Other Than Football. In sports other than football, a former student (e.g.,former student-athlete) at the certifying institution may participate in an organized practice session on an occasional basis, provided the institution does not publicize the participation of the former student at any time before the practice session. (Adopted: 3/3/11, Revised: 4/25/18 effective 8/1/18)

This appears to be used by top level swimmers in particular.

I didn't check the DII rules, but the DIII manual doesn't cover the issue at all. I know of at least one non-student runner who was allowed to participate in DIII practices after introducing himself to the coach and signing a waiver.

If I just graduated and became a pro and went back to my old clllege track, I’d be there looking for cute hunnies.

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