Katelynne Hart, frosh national class record 10:21.41

Morning bump

Isn't a 10:21 2 mile way better than a 4:56 mile?

Yeah, I always considered 10:20 indicative of high 4:40s for a high schooler but she could be more endurance focused

jobisjob wrote:

Isn't a 10:21 2 mile way better than a 4:56 mile?

Well, the OP said that she doubled back in a 4:54 PR, so she was fatigued going in to the mile, and therefore makes sense that her mile would be inferior. She's probably ripe for a solid mile PR soon.

Regarding not being undersized, she does look fairly mature for a freshman. More of a Alexa Efraimson type of build.

Anyone know how old she is?

She is 15. As for her endurance, she was running around 16:30 for 3 mile XC and 17:00 for 5K XC, so she is very strong on the aerobic side, yet has solid running mechanics. I think we could see a 10-flat 3200 from her this year, which puts her in Hasay territory for 15-year olds.

Here is Hart winning the IHSA state meet (finish at 5:10):

http://www.dyestatil.com/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=44774&do=videos&video_id=187709

She ran the 4:54 about 3 hours before the 10:21

Very impressive, I can't wait to not hear about her in 4 years.

The same could be said about any top runner, any age. The chances of staying at the top for more than one or two seasons are very poor.

Dan Band wrote:

Very impressive, I can't wait to not hear about her in 4 years.

Thanks for the update from the poster above. Soloing a 10:21 hours after a PR mile is testament to her aerobic strength.

This is an impressive time for a 15yo. But it should not qualify as a HS frosh record because if she had just turned 14 she would be in the older half of the class.

just ran 10:11.51 for 3200 indoors today. Freshman record outdoors is 1006 by hasay and I think that record is officially in serious jeopardy. Have to think that 1000 is a serious possibility at this point.

she is also coming back in the 1600 later today. Has already run 214/448 earlier this year.

Rp wrote:

This is an impressive time for a 15yo. But it should not qualify as a HS frosh record because if she had just turned 14 she would be in the older half of the class.

Wrong idiot. It's normal to turn 15 during your frosh year. Unless you live in cali or one of the odd states it's very rare to turn 14 (GF did) as a frosh since most states are a sept 1st give or take cutoff.

Rp wrote:

This is an impressive time for a 15yo. But it should not qualify as a HS frosh record because if she had just turned 14 she would be in the older half of the class.

for Illinois you typically turn 15 during your freshman year, as is the case with a majority of the states. Her birth year is 2001 (couldn't find the exact date), so she probably turned 15 sometime between September-December, which is perfectly normal for a freshman and should absolutely count for a class record.

Rp wrote:

This is an impressive time for a 15yo. But it should not qualify as a HS frosh record because if she had just turned 14 she would be in the older half of the class.

Older half of an 8th grade class, yes.

Idiot.

Almost all current HS freshman were born between 9/01 and 8/02

Those born 9 to 11/2001 are older

Those born 12/01-5/02 are in the middle

Those born 6 through 8/02 are the youngest of the class

Outside of these would be considered old or young for a current 9th grader.

Being older isn't an advantage for girls anyway.

Headline should read:Probable future disappointment; freshman star breaks national class record 10:21.41.sorry for being cynical, but how many times do we need to go through this to learn our lesson? it's a very low-odds game for young high school female star runners to have a long arc careereveryone has expectations and pushed them too much. think, "where could she be when she's 24 years old, and maybe it's a different game. but that's so far for her, maybe she doesn't like running after a while. just a kiddo

Polymath wrote:

Glenbard West, Illinois freshman Katelynne ran 2:13, 4:56 mile, 9:52 3K as an 8th grader. She won by over 30 seconds at UK this weekend. Was 18th at NXN in 2016. Doubled back in the mile in a PR 4:54.

http://www.milesplit.com/videos/186009http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/_internal/cimg

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It kind of sucks to have to add this, but she seems to not be an "undersized" freshman, looks like a good career ahead for Miss Hart.

I don't think you are really sorry for being cynical.