Richard
That´s my last posts about this our little disagreement.
I also think that to turn on the debate more positive that´s better to focus in science, physilogy, training, or...eventually the song that the runners they may sing before the run workouts this morte positive than the personal attack.
Thanks for your replies. I agree with Balance, we may disagree, but we may still have a polite and interesting debate. I support this your debate. I like your posts, i like your physiology "new" ideas. I also understand that - if and when - that´s not intersting to keep a debate based in personal offenses or individual peculiarities. If i have to fight - i fight the ideas and concepts, i never fight the man. Simply - excuse me to insist - the way that Phoenix showed in disagreement with your ideas seems to me adequate and polite, despite that he refers you or your pecularities.
In the Phoenix post he didn´t show the "material" prove (as to say) or quotes your statements - where and when - you "misrepresented data and you selectively choose a small portion of the available research", but to do so he would have to copy and past most of your training articles and also your posts, i also may do that - but ther´s no time or interest to do so in this site - that´s enough to mention that you may know our ipinion and that the readres may wake up for a critic reading of your ideas. After all that´s not you that i want to convince or made you aware of your misunterprertation - or that i want your agreement - that´s only enough that you know my opinion and that i´m free to express that - as Phoenix did - as that´s enough that you know that not that i want to convince you of something that i try that you agree with my own opinion. This Forum - as far as i see it - that´s mainly to express different opnions.
Simply a site Forum - this one - aren´t relate with the scientific debate or a court or you will be right that the burden of proof is on the person who makes the statement or claim".
In this forum sometimes we act in triple position. One, we are the reader, second we post with info or with our own ideas and opinions and sometimes we show agreement or disagreement with other post ideas, third we and, at last we are the judge (for ourselves of course) of what it is written here. This Forum model is not compatible with science debate as you try to push this debate - this Forum scientific model doesn´t exist really in science. In my country e say "from Ceaser what´s to Ceaser and from Goid what´s from God".
Just the simple fact that most of the people posts using nicknames (in anonimity)and without using his own e-mail - as you do Mr. Richards, this turns this debate weak and unscientific, or don´t you agree?
I hope that you have understood. First this is not a court or a science debate or a science congress - this is simple a free forum to pass and discuss our own ideas ansd messages about running without the need of the prove.
Finnaly, permit me that i ask you a question. Taked for granteed that the Central Governator is a correct theory, stricktly from the prespective of the Central Governator theory - not muscular benefits - what may be the benefits from running all-out hilly workout from a flat all-out flat workout - if in both cases you work in a all-out intensity?