I don't work in an office. Only losers work in an office
I don't work in an office. Only losers work in an office
I don't agree completely with you. Because Kenenisa bekele also became tangled in the tactical game in Berlin (go see the race).
There were a couple 3'00'' km's followed by a fierce 2'47''. He was trying to WIN the race first of all. The time was a bonus.
Of course he cared that he won, you are taking bits of information and making too many assumptions.
You are completely right about the track part tough. The guy has accomplished everything he could there, from titles, records, diamond league dominance and everything in between.
I also agree with the lack of balls but Bekele was pretty much the only but that could lead (fast or slow) and get away with it. The competition is too balanced for front running today.
Cheers.
I wonder if Chelimo can beat Mo in the 5k in London. Paul Chelimo!
hobbyjoggin wrote:
I wonder if Chelimo can beat Mo in the 5k in London. Paul Chelimo!
Paul Chelimo!
jamin wrote:
13:08 isn't exactly slow. I would call that a decently fast race.
I have to say, though, these winning kicks by Mo do look "set up." I have trouble believing that every race he's in spontaneously turns into a sit-and-kick and that he outkicks the Kenyans 9 times out of 10.
I'm sure they set up the 2012 and 2016 5k/10k Olympic finals also. How else does this 3:28/26:40 guy keep outkicking people in slow races? /s
Womack wrote:
We're in a lousy period of men's track athletics. Waste of good spikes. The men are cowerds. Except maybe Rudisha. Always tactical- the top of this shame was the men's 1500m in Rio- disgrace!
The Women's track is way way more interesting with G Dibaba and Ayana.
And the Marathons are great both men and women.
Totally agree.
Good Workout wrote:
I don't agree completely with you. Because Kenenisa bekele also became tangled in the tactical game in Berlin (go see the race).
There were a couple 3'00'' km's followed by a fierce 2'47''. He was trying to WIN the race first of all. The time was a bonus.
Of course he cared that he won, you are taking bits of information and making too many assumptions.
You are completely right about the track part tough. The guy has accomplished everything he could there, from titles, records, diamond league dominance and everything in between.
I also agree with the lack of balls but Bekele was pretty much the only but that could lead (fast or slow) and get away with it. The competition is too balanced for front running today.
Cheers.
Usually in the big marathons they go both for WR and for a competition. This way they get the most attention and it's the most interesting. We get to see both a race between the runners and against the clock. Both K bekele and Kipsang said before the race that they are in a WR shape.
Womack wrote:
We're not interested of seeing another tactical championship. We want attempts for records. Can anyone imagine a tactical Berlin Marathon with no pacers and elite runners finishing with times of 2:08-2:10. It's not interesting!!
For me Mo not even trying to go for records is nothing but an overrated gold digger loser.
Who is this "we" you are speaking of? Pretty sure you're just speaking for your own, bitter self
"We're not interested of seeing another tactical championship. We want attempts for records."
We thought we were the only collective posting are let's run. We welcome all of you to the board.
However, we are happy with actual races. Where we don't know what the pace will be. Where we don't have to see rabbits peeling off one by one at some pre-determined pass. We like when each individual in a race has to decide their own tactics as the race unfolds in front off them.
We think that is real racing. We are sorry others don't agree, but we like racing as a pure form on mano-a-mano. Yes, we's do.
wearenot wrote:
"We're not interested of seeing another tactical championship. We want attempts for records."
We thought we were the only collective posting are let's run. We welcome all of you to the board.
However, we are happy with actual races. Where we don't know what the pace will be. Where we don't have to see rabbits peeling off one by one at some pre-determined pass. We like when each individual in a race has to decide their own tactics as the race unfolds in front off them.
We think that is real racing. We are sorry others don't agree, but we like racing as a pure form on mano-a-mano. Yes, we's do.
The Royal We.
What's so interesting about seeing "real racing"?
I can see my son racing his mates in the yard of the school. I say all you "real racing no rabbits" supporters are nothing but Farah's british worshipers in Disguise. The Rio 1500m final- that's your definition of real racing?? More like the definition of real cowardice. No podium should have been for that race. Actual racing where we don't know the pace- pleass... we know the pace- slowww. We know- 4,600m warm-up jog- 400 dash. Rabbits and WR attempts doesn't mean not racing, it means racing fast, but all you slow-Mo fans know he can't handle that so you come up with all that "anti rabbits actual racing" talk.
Look at Ayana and Dibaba- are they not true racing?? They are racing and racing fast! The cowerd track men should take example from them. Just last year- so many WR attempts by Dibaba and Ayana and true racing between them- and for you "no rabbits" people, there weren't rabbits there. True racing is fast racing not shameful jog and kick. Only the season opening and you see G Dibaba going sub 4 minutes for 1500m indoors and breaking WR for 2000 indoors faster than the outdoor one. If she can go for records in February I'm sure Slow-Mo can- but he won't.
And another thing- Mo will not go down in history as the man who did a double double. He will go down as an avrage runner who didn't hold any true record and didn't try going for one. If he wants to be something he should start going for records.
I don't blame Mo for using sit and kick tactics in championship races but I do blame him for never going for time while in top condition. I'm hoping he'll time-trial a few races this spring because otherwise he may retire from the track without ever having raced anything over 1500m as fast as he possibly could which is just plain disappointing. I mean, who else in track could you say never tried for a PR at their best distances while they were at their peak? Laser Viren maybe?
Had Farah been in Geb and Bekele track time, no one would have heard of him. Kipchoge taught him a lesson in that indoor 2 mile race.
test2 wrote:
I don't blame Mo for using sit and kick tactics in championship races but I do blame him for never going for time while in top condition. I'm hoping he'll time-trial a few races this spring because otherwise he may retire from the track without ever having raced anything over 1500m as fast as he possibly could which is just plain disappointing. I mean, who else in track could you say never tried for a PR at their best distances while they were at their peak? Laser Viren maybe?
Funny we were just googling to try and figure out when the last time a man went for the WR in a championship race. Latest we could find was Lasse Viren in 72.
Womack wrote:
And another thing- Mo will not go down in history as the man who did a double double. He will go down as an avrage runner who didn't hold any true record and didn't try going for one. If he wants to be something he should start going for records.
I am wearing a hat made of pickles.
See, I can post gibberish, too.
And the biggest shame is that Farah's time for 1,500 is better than Bekele's and Geb's. the man went sub 3:29, which means he could get close to Bekele's times.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
No chance Mo could break a serious WR.
If he runs like that at the World Champs later in the year he will lose.
That is Mo near full speed.
If Ethiopia picks it's team right and/or Kenya has better tactics they can beat him but it has to be a fast race.
Last 200m in 27s. No that's not full speed.
If there was more talent in the field, another 3/4 Kenyans looking for a fast time, then Farah would have to hang on and run a PB. Hopefully this will happen in the 10k outdoors.
WR in championship wrote:
test2 wrote:I don't blame Mo for using sit and kick tactics in championship races but I do blame him for never going for time while in top condition. I'm hoping he'll time-trial a few races this spring because otherwise he may retire from the track without ever having raced anything over 1500m as fast as he possibly could which is just plain disappointing. I mean, who else in track could you say never tried for a PR at their best distances while they were at their peak? Laser Viren maybe?
Funny we were just googling to try and figure out when the last time a man went for the WR in a championship race. Latest we could find was Lasse Viren in 72.
Almaz Ayana- Rio 2016- but she's a woman. The women of the track today are the true men.
In the Olympics, 800m and up all I can think of are Herb Elliot 1500m Rome 1972, Lasse Viren 10km Munich 1972, Alberto Juantorena 800m Montreal 1976, David Rudisha 800m London 2012, Almaz Ayana 10km Rio 2016.
I must agree. Time to man up and go for it in a big way. I want to see him go out in 7:35 for the first 3k and then see what happens. I doubt he can break the WR but I believe he could go sub-12:45 and move to #3 all-time at least.