Serena Burla just ran 2:26:53 for 4th in the Osaka Women's Marathon.

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  • Across the pond
    2 years ago 01/29/2017 6:42am CST
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    She may be one of the only American's ever to have competed in the prestigious and famous race in Japan.

    And for those that don't know her she was diagnosed with cancer and had part of of the muscle in her leg removed a few years back.

    Probably the best unknown female distance runner in America over her career with a few sub 2:30 races internationally and was 10th at the World Championships. Has also run a several 1:10-1:12 half-marathons and won a couple US titles. Very consistent career.

    Editor's note: Recap of race here
  • boring
    2 years ago 01/29/2017 7:17am CST
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    yawn, over 11 minutes over the world record. An american man who ran 2:14 wouldn't even get a thread
  • FightFor15
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    2 years ago 01/29/2017 7:36am CST
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    Awesome run! Thanks for sharing
  • Across the pond
    2 years ago 01/29/2017 8:10am CST
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    Yawn my @$$. That WR by Radcliffe is a joke like most others.

    You're the problem with our sport. Instead of celebrating a clean athlete with a great story, you knock the sport down. These people aren't weekend warriors following the Runner's World jog-a-thon plan. I would bet my house that you couldn't run a 2:26 marathon to save your life.
  • wwharrier
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    2 years ago 01/29/2017 12:29pm CST
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    Bump
  • Jerk alert
    2 years ago 01/29/2017 12:31pm CST
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    Across the pond wrote:

    Yawn my @$$. That WR by Radcliffe is a joke like most others.

    You're the problem with our sport. Instead of celebrating a clean athlete with a great story, you knock the sport down. These people aren't weekend warriors following the Runner's World jog-a-thon plan. I would bet my house that you couldn't run a 2:26 marathon to save your life.

    Very well said.
  • wwharrier
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    2 years ago 01/29/2017 1:08pm CST
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    This puts Serena #8 on the all time USA list, bumping Amy Hastings down a spot. 33 seconds behind Desi and 1 minute behind Kara. http://www.usatf.org/statistics/All-Time-Lists/MarathonWomen.aspx
  • fun with stats
    2 years ago 01/29/2017 1:15pm CST
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    boring wrote:

    yawn, over 11 minutes over the world record. An american man who ran 2:14 wouldn't even get a thread

    The difference between men's and women's performances doesn't follow a linear time difference. Have to rank order performances to find the comparable time. 2:26:53 for a woman equates to 2:07:55. Yes she deserves her own thread. You on the other hand don't (yawn).
  • rjm33
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    2 years ago 01/29/2017 1:40pm CST
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    Wwharrier wrote:

    This puts Serena #8 on the all time USA list, bumping Amy Hastings down a spot. 33 seconds behind Desi and 1 minute behind Kara. http://www.usatf.org/statistics/All-Time-Lists/MarathonWomen.aspx

    Unfortunately, your list is from USATF.

    USATF has not updated the list since April 12, 2011.

    This is not a surprise…because USATF is completely pathetic.

    Where are Desi's and Kara Goucher's Boston runs???

    Where is the 2:21:14 in Berlin in 2014 by SHALANE FLANAGAN (IRISH)???
    Answer:

    They are not there because USATF HAS NOT UPDATED THE LIST IN ALMOST 6 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It is also incredible that Serena Burla can run a 2:26:53 marathon and there are 7 posts on the thread.

    A thread on Galen Rupp's plantar fasciitis will be 400 posts.

    What a joke.
  • wwharrier
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    2 years ago 01/29/2017 2:12pm CST
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    Yeah.... I used two wrong bookmarked page. Surprised this isn't on the front page at least somewhere. That's a big PR from 2:28:01 to 2:26:53.
  • usnspecialist
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    2 years ago 01/29/2017 2:16pm CST
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    rjm33 wrote:

    Wwharrier wrote:

    This puts Serena #8 on the all time USA list, bumping Amy Hastings down a spot. 33 seconds behind Desi and 1 minute behind Kara. http://www.usatf.org/statistics/All-Time-Lists/MarathonWomen.aspx

    Unfortunately, your list is from USATF.

    USATF has not updated the list since April 12, 2011.

    This is not a surprise…because USATF is completely pathetic.

    Where are Desi's and Kara Goucher's Boston runs???

    Where is the 2:21:14 in Berlin in 2014 by SHALANE FLANAGAN (IRISH)???
    Answer:

    They are not there because USATF HAS NOT UPDATED THE LIST IN ALMOST 6 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It is also incredible that Serena Burla can run a 2:26:53 marathon and there are 7 posts on the thread.

    A thread on Galen Rupp's plantar fasciitis will be 400 posts.

    What a joke.


    while it is asinine that USATF hasn't updated the list in 2011, it still puts burla in 8th on the current list, up from T14 before the race. Also if it is a record list, the boston runs shouldn't be discussed because boston is a not a record eligible course.
  • gfhfrgt
    2 years ago 01/29/2017 2:22pm CST
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    So you're seriously claiming that a women's time eleven minutes off the world record is equivalent to a men's time only five minutes off the world record? Clearly the mercier table isn't so useful in making comparisons across genders in events where there's such an enormous disparity in competitive depth as in the marathon. Better to come up with an equivalent based on a given time's percentage from the world record.

    This isn't to take anything away from Burla's performance, which is obviously fantastic. Congrats to her on a gritty run.
  • Fun with reality
    2 years ago 01/29/2017 2:26pm CST
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    fun with stats wrote:
    The difference between men's and women's performances doesn't follow a linear time difference. Have to rank order performances to find the comparable time. 2:26:53 for a woman equates to 2:07:55. Yes she deserves her own thread. You on the other hand don't (yawn).

    I think any athlete who tries hard and improves their PR deserves praise and this thread is jusitfied. However a 2h 26 53 performance is a 2h 26 53 performance and it is not a 2h 07 55 performance. Don't try to manipulate the figures unless you have reason to believe that the clock runs faster for women athletes.

    We live in an era where women and men should be treated as equals and this should apply to distance running. One problem with the sport is that that prize money is not distributed as it should be - it should be done strictly by performance and not according to age or sex. For example thousands of people have run faster that PR and most of them earned nothing from the sport whereas she was made a multi millionaire by the sport. That sort of inequality in distribution is not right when you consider that it is being given to the inferior athletic performance.
  • rjm33
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    2 years ago 01/29/2017 2:27pm CST
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    You think that all Boston runs should not be discussed and maybe should be banned as a discussion topic.

    PERIOD.

    I heard a rumor that Ryan Hall said that he counts his 2:04 marathon in Boston as his PR…even though there was a wind at his back with a course that is net downhill and not record eligible.

    Why does Ryan Hall say that???

    Answer:

    1) Ryan Hall drinks a lot of MUSCLE MILK.
  • gfhfrgt
    2 years ago 01/29/2017 2:31pm CST
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    Realistically her time is more in the ballpark of 2:12 -- still amazing but definitely not 2:07xx.
  • TrackCoach
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    2 years ago 01/29/2017 2:44pm CST
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    boring wrote:

    yawn, over 11 minutes over the world record. An american man who ran 2:14 wouldn't even get a thread

    You don't know what you are talking about, 2:26 is pretty good for any athlete and very good for any non-African. I would say 2:26 puts her in the top-5 among U.S. athletes.
  • wwharrier
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    2 years ago 01/29/2017 2:56pm CST
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    Was already stated as a #8 US all-time. In equivalency to a men's time, it's in line to a high 209 to 210 US male performance. This is considering Paula as an outlier.
  • kjgl
    2 years ago 01/29/2017 3:04pm CST
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    great to see she ran a personal best. She can't be "young" anymore. Pretty impressive to train that hard and make the trip and PR. clutch performer.
  • Centrosleftfoot
    2 years ago 01/29/2017 3:09pm CST
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    Probably =2:13:24 male.
  • Skeptic Cull
    2 years ago 01/29/2017 4:15pm CST
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    The times that I think are more than 50% chance of being clean are 2:04 for men, 2:19 for women. That puts her in the area of 2:10 for men, which is about right since she seems to be just outside the real contenders for Olympic teams, similar to Luke Puskedra.