Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Monkeys typing wrote:

Racket wrote:

This, I believe, is false. I believe a 2020 win in the same fashion as his 2016 one is not such a long shot. Even if he loses Michigan and Pennsylvania, he need only hold Wisconsin to win again, all else equal. Looking at the map, I don't see a lot of opportunity to flip other states.

270towin has Biden leading the polls in Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, and Arizona, all of whom went for Trump in 2016 in addition to the three name and there's others (Ohio, Iowa, Texas, Utah) that are within the polling margins. That's not to say Trump as no chance, but either he squeaks out a win by the narrowest of margins or he's on the wrong end of a landslide.

Here's hoping!

democrats hate truths wrote:

Democrat sponsored hoaxes include:

Russia collusion

Ukraine quid pro quo

Coronavirus

Police brutality against blacks

Just to name a few...

OK. Why is today a great day for Floyd? How is it a great day in terms of equality?

Racket wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Oh please do explain. I'd love to hear your counter-thesis.

No thanks. You're free to research a counter-argument on your own though. You might learn something about REITs and economics of rent-seeking in the process.

Here's some research:

In 2016, we had 3.7 million evictions. The unemployment rate was only 4.7%. The economics of rent-seeking, didn't help those 3.7 million families.

Now the unemployment rate is 13.3%. Without quick government action, there will be millions more evictions in 2020.

johnny99 wrote:

Make America Great Again! wrote:

Completely puzzling? We added 2.5 million jobs in a month! No other president could have achieved that. We are winning so bigly!

Obama's job creation record is better than Trump's, so odds are Obama could have added this many jobs if not more. But if Obama was still President, it's doubtful we'd be in as big a hole in the first place.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/07/obamas-last-three-years-of-job-growth-all-beat-trumps-best-year/#1a40f5d06ba6

Let's just wait until all of Trump's eight years are done to make a fair comparison. There was no concrete steps Obama took, in fact the starting point post recession was naturally going to be a strong point to start with nowhere to go but up. Trump's tax cut, improved trade deals and encouraging businesses to come back to the states and/or not leave in the first place had a positive effect. All of this against the backdrop that the economy would "be a disaster if Trump won" which we know now to be false. Looking forward, very few people who understand trade and economics are going to be that Joe Biden could perform anywhere near as well. Trump has proven he understand the economy and that is the number one concern of voters ultimately. GDP, unemployment and the value of people's investments are very critical in the voting equation.

i just listened to the speech on you tube and yes, he said it was a great day for Mr. Floyd in the context of equality, not the jobs report.

But it still shows a great insensitivity because while it arguably may be a painful and necessary chapter in our countries growth, it certainly is not a good day for this poor man. This goes without saying for any thinking individual.

I am truly sorry for his family, most of all, but also for all of us in that he (Trump) once again tries to rewrite the narrative in a way that suits his best interests while taking no responsibility for how his actions have contributed to such dreadful outcomes.

Funny how you assume he's going to get 8 years. He may only get 4 years, in which case comparing his first 3 years with Obama's last 3 years isn't all that unfair. And the numbers don't lie, job creation was better under Obama. By the way, the starting point wasn't post-recession, you misunderstood. The comparison was 2014-2016 vs. 2017-2019. If I recall, the recession was 2008-2009, so any post-recession bounce would have dissipated by 2014. But that's a good warning for perspective on today's jobs report, which undoubtedly is skewed by the awful job losses over the past 3 months.

Considering that Biden was Obama's VP and Obama had a better record on job creation, there's every reason to expect that Biden will more effectively grow and strengthen the economy than Trump.

PresidentTrump wrote:

. . . in fact the starting point post recession was naturally going to be a strong point to start with nowhere to go but up.

The point is that there are steps that can be taken to *reach* the post-recession stage. Obama took some (and might have taken more, but for a reluctant Congress) and the U.S. came out of the Great Recession sooner than many other Western nations.

The Fed (and Congress, etc.) has already taken some solid steps to bring the U.S. out of the current situation (the Deeperession? Don't know what to call it), but in fact whoever is President next year will almost certainly have a deep hole to climb out of--just as the *events* of 2008 presaged a worse *situation* in 2009.

Though I never voted for him, I thought BHO did a pretty good job of working us out of the hole. Unfortunately, whoever is in office in 2021 will face a similar--actually maybe a bit deeper--hole.

So the ultimate difference: Obama 2009 stepped into a terrible economic situation; Trump 2017 into a very good one; President 2021 into another terrible one. Obama left Trump a good place to start from; Trump will have left himself (or whomever) a really difficult one.

Today is a great day for America and for Donald Trump's re-election chances. You Libs will never conceded anything but the Dow Jones is up 50% since the market lows, 2.5 million new jobs and everything else is looking up for Trump. Where is the talk of the pandemic? LOL>

Sally Vix wrote:

Today is a great day for America and for Donald Trump's re-election chances. You Libs will never conceded anything but the Dow Jones is up 50% since the market lows, 2.5 million new jobs and everything else is looking up for Trump. Where is the talk of the pandemic? LOL>

Democrats are convinced that they will sweep all house and senate elections and Trump will get zero votes!!!!

That is hilarious!!!!

Democrats lose again!!!!

Libs' attempt to remove Trump by Russian collusion crock/ Mueller investigation - strike 1

Libs' attempt to remove Trump by impeachment crock - strike 2

Libs' attempt to remove Trump by Pandemic - strike 3

Libs' attempt to remove Trump by civil unrest crock - strike 4

Liberals in the last 4 years are winless in their pathetic attempt to remove Trump. Pathetic.

Yes

Trump’s election chances have now doubled.

From 5% to 10%

(Or as Flagpole would say, from 0% to 0%)

One big thing that helped the unemployment numbers are people being kept as employees but not currently working nor earning money.

They are not looking for a job, which is a key metric to the unemployment rate.

I do hope things improve.

But remember, most people disapproved of Trump even when the unemployment rate was 3.5%.

democrats hate truths wrote:

Democrats are convinced that they will sweep all house and senate elections and Trump will get zero votes!!!!

That is hilarious!!!!

Democrats lose again!!!!

Well, I'm no Dem, but I'm surrounded by them--even during NYC's lockdown--and I haven't encountered a single one who's suggested anything other than that the elections will be pulsatingly close in November. Not one has said the presidential election is a done deal.

Whether a more realistic appraisal, this time around, will actually translate into more *votes* for the Dem candidates remains to be seen.

L L wrote:

Yes

Trump’s election chances have now doubled.

From 5% to 10%

(Or as Flagpole would say, from 0% to 0%)

One big thing that helped the unemployment numbers are people being kept as employees but not currently working nor earning money.

They are not looking for a job, which is a key metric to the unemployment rate.

I do hope things improve.

But remember, most people disapproved of Trump even when the unemployment rate was 3.5%.

Do you really suggest that Trump's re-election chances are at 10%? Seriously? I am not going to trash Biden but have you seen Trump's opponent? He thinks his son was attorney G of the US. Really?

Vincent Gigante was reknowned for walking around Manhattan in his bathrobe and his pajamas. Biden is fast-approaching that level of lunacy. You Dems really DO NOT want Biden debating Trump on the big stage.

agip wrote:

“Equal justice under the law must mean that every American receives equal treatment in every encounter with law enforcement, regardless of race, color, gender, or creed. They have to receive fair treatment from law enforcement. They have to receive it. We all saw what happened last week. We can’t let that happen. Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying, “This is a great thing that’s happening for our country.” This is a great day for him. It’s a great day for everybody. This is a great day for everybody. This is a great, great day in terms of equality. It’s really what our Constitution requires and it’s what our country is all about.””

Watching it, I don't disagree what his reference was to. However, the reference to "they" is a problem.

Biden is feeble but the election is an up or down vote on Trump.

And most Americans hate Trump.

Sally Vix wrote:

Libs' attempt to remove Trump by Russian collusion crock/ Mueller investigation - strike 1

Libs' attempt to remove Trump by impeachment crock - strike 2

Libs' attempt to remove Trump by Pandemic - strike 3

Libs' attempt to remove Trump by civil unrest crock - strike 4

Liberals in the last 4 years are winless in their pathetic attempt to remove Trump. Pathetic.

You're celebrating too early. Didn't you learn from Bush's "Mission Accomplished" moment?

Americans (liberals, moderates, even conservatives) will have the chance to remove Trump this November. And if Trump does lose, all of those things that you cite will likely have been factors in removing him.

Fat hurts wrote:

Here's some research:

In 2016, we had 3.7 million evictions. The unemployment rate was only 4.7%. The economics of rent-seeking, didn't help those 3.7 million families.

Now the unemployment rate is 13.3%. Without quick government action, there will be millions more evictions in 2020.

Don't be fooled by the smoke and mirrors:

The unemployment rate only regards people as 'unemployed' if they are looking for work.

41M extra people have applied for unemployment benefits since lock downs, and many are 'under employed' or on furlough.

Most of those 41M people are not looking for work because there aren't any jobs