Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

And now for some numbers.

Today - The World Excluding China

All growth percentages shown represent the day's percentage growth in cumulative cases/deaths. Fatality rate represents cumulative deaths divided by cumulative reported cases as of date shown.

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Growth in Cumulative Reported Cases (%)

Mar 8: 16.7

Mar 9: 14.9

Mar 10: 14.3

Mar 11: 18.1

Mar 12: 19.3

Mar 13: 20.1

Mar 14: 16.7

Mar 15: 17.3

Mar 16: 14.9

Mar 17: 15.5

Mar 18: 17.7

Mar 19: 18.9

Mar 20: 18.2

Mar 21: 15.4

Mar 22: 13.8

Mar 23: 16.9

Mar 24: 13.4

Mar 25: 14.9

Mar 26: 16.2

Mar 27: 13.8

Mar 28: 13.1

Growth in Cumulative Deaths (%)

Mar 8: 43.1

Mar 9: 25.6

Mar 10: 28.2

Mar 11: 27.9

Mar 12: 24.3

Mar 13: 24.3

Mar 14: 17.6

Mar 15: 25.2

Mar 16: 19.2

Mar 17: 20.5

Mar 18: 20.5

Mar 19: 18.9

Mar 20: 19.7

Mar 21: 20.0

Mar 22: 16.5

Mar 23: 16.5

Mar 24: 16.0

Mar 25: 16.8

Mar 26: 16.0

Mar 27: 15.2

Mar 28: 14.4

Fatality Rate (%)

Mar 8: 2.4

Mar 9: 2.7

Mar 10: 3.0

Mar 11: 3.2

Mar 12: 3.4

Mar 13: 3.5

Mar 14: 3.5

Mar 15: 3.7

Mar 16: 3.9

Mar 17: 4.0

Mar 18: 4.1

Mar 19: 4.1

Mar 20: 4.2

Mar 21: 4.4

Mar 22: 4.5

Mar 23: 4.4

Mar 24: 4.5

Mar 25: 4.6

Mar 26: 4.6

Mar 27: 4.7

Mar 28: 4.7

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Note 1: Growth in cases and deaths continues to fall (as we collectively stare into the abyss of a worldwide depression to make these numbers fall). There is no denying the fact that these lockdowns can and do work.

Note 2: But the 13% and 14% that we see from today's numbers (cases/deaths respectively) still represent a doubling of cases worldwide every 5 - 6 days. Where the heck are Sally, Rigged and Igy to complain that this whole thing is being overblown?

Note 3: Fatality rate continues to rise, even in the face of increased testing. Now standing at 4.7%, we better all hope that the Agip Coefficient is pretty darned big.

seattle prattle wrote:

kibitzer wrote:

Well, better late than never. Now if the rest of you could just stop feeding the troll (aka SV)--just entirely stop responding to it--then this thread, and the level of discussion, would improve.

Good idea, Will follow your recommendation. Please be safe, and best of luck to you and yours.

-SP

Stop trying to get of Sally Vix. He's my favorite punching bag

Wow, just looked in again. Mostly long-winded arguing. I don’t think a few one-liners would hurt here.

jesseriley wrote:

Wow, just looked in again. Mostly long-winded arguing. I don’t think a few one-liners would hurt here.

Okay, here's an old fart doing a Henny Youngman imitation: "Take my life.

"Please."

Ok, Worldometers just rolled over its data so here's what I got.

Much better day today than yesterday.

Almost all good news, although the US is really becoming bad.

The daily change in worldwide deaths grew only 7%, which is one of the lowest numbers we've seen. But the 3 day average is 14% growth, which isn't much different than what we've seen from the start. So today might have been a one-day blip down worldwide.

In the Italy/France/Spain cluster, there is better news.

Daily deaths fell in Italy 3%. France only grew 7%, Spain only 9%. Those are all among the lowest numbers we've seen. Three day averages are also among the lowest we've seen: 10%,16%,9%. So that's good too.

The US is going to drive the numbers from here, for a while - we should catch Spain and Italy in daily deaths by Tuesday or Wednesday and then keep going. Daily deaths in the US doubled in around 3 days, growing a frightening c. 30% per day. Probably we'll need a 'world ex-USA' data stream to see what is going on outside the US.

Worldwide, the 5 day % increase resumed its recent fall (except for March 27)- showing a 187% growth over 5 days. Which is a big number, but one of the lowest we've seen. The trend is that worldwide % increases in daily deaths is slowing. The problem, again, is the US. Even if deaths start falling in Italy and Spain, our deaths will erase that deficit because our numbers will soon be so large they will dwarf the world and erase any further improvement in Italy/Spain/France we see.

If Italy, france and spain are our time machine to see what the curve looks like, there is some light at the end of the tunnel. Italy has seen a 10 day long band of no growth in new cases. Spain a less defined 4 day band in new cases. I think we have to believe that the lack of growth in new cases in those countries means that deaths will start falling in the not-to-distant future. We just have to hope that the health care systems in Spain and Italy don't collapse.

The German anomaly continues...while Italy/Spain have deaths per million of around 150ish, Gemany is at 5.

This crisis is on Trump. He had warning and DID NOTHING! Actually worse than nothing he dismissed any thoughts of concern. "The intelligence community's 2019 Worldwide Threat Assessment, delivered last January, said the following in bold type: "We assess that the United States and the world will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support." The report said that there will be "more frequent outbreaks of infectious diseases" than in the past, for various reasons related to urbanization, globalization and climate change, and said that health security improvements by the international community "may be inadequate." The intelligence community's 2018 threat assessment warned that a "novel strain of a virulent microbe that is easily transmissible between humans continues to be a major threat" -- specifically listing a coronavirus, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) Coronavirus, as one with "pandemic potential.""

L L wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

The president DOES deserve part of the blame. But he also shut down the borders from China almost immediately. Are you crediting him with that?

That’s a lie.

I’m not going to read the rest of your post when you start with lies.

He took weeks to do anything about China travel when asked and even then it was not a shutdown.

He put in certain restrictions.

He did a lot to promote people going out while the virus was in its early stages here.

And he is currently picking petty battles with Democrat governors.

Dirt bag.

Thanks, kib, laughter is a gift.

Good news for trump, Mexico will pay for that wall after all.

To stop gringos from seeking asylum there.

Sally Vix wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

A new study using Hydroxychloroquine & Azithromycin cured 79 out of 80 patients with COVID-19.

This follows a study using Hydroxychloroquine with Zinc that cured ALL 350 patients.

What’s the CDC doing? And why the hell are several governors banning this drug?

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/22/doctors-are-successfully-using-hydroxychloroquine-to

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treat-coronavirus-patients-in-the-u-s-dr-william-grace-says/

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-cure-new-results-french-study-shows-combination-hydroxychloroquine-plaquenil-azithromycin-successfully-treated-80-coronavirus-patients-significant-dr/

Rigged, you do know that the Liberals, mainstream media and Joe Biden will never allow such a easy cure to the virus. They will fight this tooth-and-nail. They want this pandemic to go on as long as possible to damage any chances that Trump may have of re-election. Over at MSNBC, they seem to be rejoicing that the US earned the title of most Coronavirus cases. Pretty sad that they put the defeat of a Trump relection over the health of americans. Not sad, actually. Despicable in so many ways. Just despicable.

That is ridiculous and stupid. It is typical for Americans to rally around a President in times of crisis, and that is happening now with regard to Trump. His approval rating has gone up over the last couple of weeks. The trend now suggests that the longer we are in this crisis the better it is for Trump, but you have shown you don't understand trends because you are an idiot fool. No one is rejoicing over this you dumbf*ck.

Smorbun wrote:

It is typical for Americans to rally around a President in times of crisis, and that is happening now with regard to Trump. His approval rating has gone up over the last couple of weeks. The trend now suggests that the longer we are in this crisis the better it is for Trump . . .

The bump will last as long as the $1200 lasts, and being forced back to work. Then, as people continuing to die during the summer—at a lesser rate—Trump's approval will tank.

there's more wrote:

Smorbun wrote:

It is typical for Americans to rally around a President in times of crisis, and that is happening now with regard to Trump. His approval rating has gone up over the last couple of weeks. The trend now suggests that the longer we are in this crisis the better it is for Trump . . .

The bump will last as long as the $1200 lasts, and being forced back to work. Then, as people continuing to die during the summer—at a lesser rate—Trump's approval will tank.

and remember that 'approval' during a crisis doesn't translate 1:1 to November votes. It's more a need to feel supportive of the team in a crisis than actual approval. To many, disapproval of Trump right now would feel like a shout against America.

seattle prattle wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Rigged, you do know that the Liberals, mainstream media and Joe Biden will never allow such a easy cure to the virus. They will fight this tooth-and-nail. They want this pandemic to go on as long as possible to damage any chances that Trump may have of re-election. Over at MSNBC, they seem to be rejoicing that the US earned the title of most Coronavirus cases. Pretty sad that they put the defeat of a Trump relection over the health of americans. Not sad, actually. Despicable in so many ways. Just despicable.

You and your assertions are just flat out wrong. These are people who dedicated their lives to public service. You are distasteful and have no right to way what you said. Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself and I can only hope that other posters call you out for it.

This is the right response to Sally. What he said is stupid, crazy, and beyond the pale. No one here is even remotely as offensive as Sally. That was such a ridiculous statement that even I was surprised by it, and I fully understand what Sally is. Sally, you are one warped individual beyond being just really really stupid.

agip wrote:

and remember that 'approval' during a crisis doesn't translate 1:1 to November votes. It's more a need to feel supportive of the team in a crisis than actual approval. To many, disapproval of Trump right now would feel like a shout against America.

Take a look at the underlying surveys in 538. Especially YouGov.

Of registered voters

Strongly Approve: 29%

Strongly Disapprove: 45%

Of Republicans

Strongly Approve: 61%

Sally Vix wrote:

Ciro wrote:

Blame the bogeyman, it’s never the President or administration fault.

But he also shut down the borders from China almost immediately. Are you crediting him with that?

No, he actually didn't. You keep saying that, and it is not true.

Go do a search. You can find TONS of reports that he didn't do that and that he keeps lying and misstating what he actually did do.

I will post one from the Washington Times, a Pro-Trump paper.

I'll pull out a crucial part for you:

"That the Trump administration “banned flights,” “closed the borders,” or “stopped flights” from first China and later the European Union to halt the spread of COVID-19 has become a staple of its defense of its response to the pandemic. But it simply isn’t true. At no time through the course of this awful period have flights even once been halted between either China and the U.S. or Europe — including even Italy — and the United States.

The Trump administration did impose travel restrictions between China and the U.S., and later Europe and the U.S., but both actions have loopholes large enough to fly a 777 through. "

So, quit saying that. It's not true. Even a Pro-Trump newspaper says so.

My God you are so effing stupid. Do you ever get tired of being proven wrong? Idiot!

Sally Vix wrote:

seattle prattle wrote:

You included Joe BIden. Are you really as stupid as to not see that? You included "other leberals". Here;s my promise: you are dead to me. I will no longer take anything you say seriously.,

So long.

Great. You haven't provided anything here. You use insults like every other LIberal here with some exceptions like agip and Aztec. What is with you Liberals and insults???? Why? Rigged and I never insult you Libs. Why the need to insult others who disagree with you.

Sally, people say things to you that you don't like because you make unbelievably offensive statements like the one you just did about people at MSNBC rejoicing about increased numbers of cases here in the US. Categorically false and offensive to say such a thing. Our brains can only be numbed so much by reading your stupid Sh!t before we call you out on it. You are by far the most offensive poster here. You make fun of how elderly Senators look, take undue swipes at what people do for a living, when what they do is much more noble that anything you do, you say things that are untrue constantly. You're just a jerk, a liar, and an idiot. And then, you drag Rigged into it when someone tells you they are done with you. That poster didn't say anything about Rigged. Rigged is stupid like you are, but he is nowhere near as stupid, and he doesn't say unbelievably offensive things like you do. He's the second dumbest poster here, but you are in a league all your own. Get this through your stupid head, you are the dumbest one here, you are the most offensive one here, and it's not even close.

You are so dumb and so offensive that if you don't want people to tell you that, you simply need to stop posting. I honestly don't know why you still do. Idiot fool.

Sally Vix wrote:

...if my daughter's BF ever used that term I would take him out to the woodshed.

WTF is wrong with you? You need to see a doctor.

You left yourself out as the biggest tree in the forest. It always intrigues me how bean counters see themselves as truth seekers.

Fentrekker wrote:

I am only calling out the media and other Liberals. I am not calling out the professionals. They do an outstanding job. The Liberals and the mainstream media are hoping that this crisis goes on forever. Just like they were celebrating the Mueller investigation and how they were celebrating the impeachment proceedings. If you don't understand how partisan all three of these are then you have a heck of a lot to learn. Hope you learn it. It is a dog-eat-dog world out there.

There is only one question of relevance with the poster who goes as "Sally Vix"; why does it persist in typing when it knows, and everyone else knows, that even it does not believe what it is saying? I say again, it can't possibly be a bona fide Homo sapien creature, posting as such. It is having you all on. Stop replying to it. It just might go away, or finally admit it is pulling your ear.[/quote]

You are attempting to paint Sally as a troll, but he's not. He's a lonely man. He's a stupid man. He's a man filled with inadequacies, and he is desperately trying to have people respect him and think he has valid points. He's a failure. He has a degree in accounting and believes that makes him a mathematician. He's delusional there. I know it is hard to believe, but Sally is indeed as stupid as he appears. He is the dumbest person I have ever encountered. On top of that, he's also a proven jerk.

I think looking at percentage increases and decreases day to day isn’t The best measure. As the numbers get bigger it becomes harder and harder to maintain a rate of percentage increase. Like a new business can grow 20% no problem if they are doing well but even if they keep doing well that percentage growth will naturally decrease.