Suck on that you democrat (Iran loving traitors) pieces of trash!!!!
Democrats lose again!!!!!
Fattttty B wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
For the last time the GOP is not interested in witnesses relevant to the trump impeachment trial. The WH has obstructed the investigation and the GOP will ensure they shut the rest of it out from any reasonable process. You just have to look at the defense so far to get a good sense of trump's guilt. It's pretty straight forward.
You only want witnesses who can potentially hurt Trump. The House impeachment hearing was a partisan debacle. Do you want a fair Senate trial? If so you can't just want witnesses who can hurt Trump. He needs to be able to defend himself. Why are you opposed to having witnesses testify who can exonerate him? Are you about having a fair trial or ONLY about having a trial to convict him? Do you want the truth or just want him removed from office? Please tell me what you want.
I'd love to hear from witnesses who can exonerate him.
But nobody has come forward.
Fattttty Bb wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
None of your desired witnesses listened to the call, discussed Ukraine with Trump or were out in the field with Giuliani. How can they exonerate Trump?
They can possibly exonerate the Bidens.
The Bidens never indicted for anything. How can they be exonerated during someone else's trial?
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Fattttty Bb wrote:
They can possibly exonerate the Bidens.
The Bidens never indicted for anything. How can they be exonerated during someone else's trial?
You can tell what the trumpist a-hole strategy is going to be - just throw mud over everybody and everything so whatever crime trump did is just one more crime and trumpist fascists can just walk away, thinking everyone is dirty.
That's his impeachment plan and his reelection plan. Just mud, mud, mud everywhere.
Great job, Republicans, great job.
agip wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
The Bidens never indicted for anything. How can they be exonerated during someone else's trial?
You can tell what the trumpist a-hole strategy is going to be - just throw mud over everybody and everything so whatever crime trump did is just one more crime and trumpist fascists can just walk away, thinking everyone is dirty.
That's his impeachment plan and his reelection plan. Just mud, mud, mud everywhere.
Great job, Republicans, great job.
The Russians hacked Burisma. That is the company that Hunter Biden was paid millions without any qualifications for the job. Why do you Dems only want witnesses who can only provide dirt on Trump. Don't you want a fair trial. Why do you not also want witnesses who can exonerate Trump - like Hunter and Joe Biden. They are deeply involved in Russia, and Burisma and everything related to it. Sure, have Bolton testify but the Bidens are deeply involved in this as well. Why are you scared of having them testify? If they are exonerated no harm will be done. I am astounded that the only witnesses that you want are those who might be critical against Trump.. You never want a fair trial. Only Bolton and Mulvaney et al. No one who can help exonerate Trump. You don't want a fair trial. You want only a trial to get at Trump.
Fattttty Bb wrote:
agip wrote:
You can tell what the trumpist a-hole strategy is going to be - just throw mud over everybody and everything so whatever crime trump did is just one more crime and trumpist fascists can just walk away, thinking everyone is dirty.
That's his impeachment plan and his reelection plan. Just mud, mud, mud everywhere.
Great job, Republicans, great job.
The Russians hacked Burisma. That is the company that Hunter Biden was paid millions without any qualifications for the job. Why do you Dems only want witnesses who can only provide dirt on Trump. Don't you want a fair trial. Why do you not also want witnesses who can exonerate Trump - like Hunter and Joe Biden. They are deeply involved in Russia, and Burisma and everything related to it. Sure, have Bolton testify but the Bidens are deeply involved in this as well. Why are you scared of having them testify? If they are exonerated no harm will be done. I am astounded that the only witnesses that you want are those who might be critical against Trump.. You never want a fair trial. Only Bolton and Mulvaney et al. No one who can help exonerate Trump. You don't want a fair trial. You want only a trial to get at Trump.
I would agree to any witnesses you want in exchange for Bolton, Mulvany, Giuliani and the others. The Bidens, of course, will deny your accusations. Then what? Will someone wave one of Giuliani's wacky affidavits in their face?
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Fattttty Bb wrote:
The Russians hacked Burisma. That is the company that Hunter Biden was paid millions without any qualifications for the job. Why do you Dems only want witnesses who can only provide dirt on Trump. Don't you want a fair trial. Why do you not also want witnesses who can exonerate Trump - like Hunter and Joe Biden. They are deeply involved in Russia, and Burisma and everything related to it. Sure, have Bolton testify but the Bidens are deeply involved in this as well. Why are you scared of having them testify? If they are exonerated no harm will be done. I am astounded that the only witnesses that you want are those who might be critical against Trump.. You never want a fair trial. Only Bolton and Mulvaney et al. No one who can help exonerate Trump. You don't want a fair trial. You want only a trial to get at Trump.
I would agree to any witnesses you want in exchange for Bolton, Mulvany, Giuliani and the others. The Bidens, of course, will deny your accusations. Then what? Will someone wave one of Giuliani's wacky affidavits in their face?
in a trial you can't just pull in everybody you think of as a witness...you can't go fishing for other crimes. That's not how trials work. You want to put Hunter Biden and Joe Biden on trial, find a grand jury that will indict him.
This trial is about trump, not bidens.
agip wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I would agree to any witnesses you want in exchange for Bolton, Mulvany, Giuliani and the others. The Bidens, of course, will deny your accusations. Then what? Will someone wave one of Giuliani's wacky affidavits in their face?
in a trial you can't just pull in everybody you think of as a witness...you can't go fishing for other crimes. That's not how trials work. You want to put Hunter Biden and Joe Biden on trial, find a grand jury that will indict him.
This trial is about trump, not bidens.
Biden is indirectly involved with impeachment, as the House inquiry was launched after a whistleblower report showed Trump asked the Ukrainian president to investigate the former vice president and his son, Hunter Biden. Joe Biden needs to testify as well as the whistleblower. Again, I am all in favor of having Bolton and Mulvaney testifying but let's have Biden and the Whistleblower as well.
Fattttty Bb wrote:
agip wrote:
in a trial you can't just pull in everybody you think of as a witness...you can't go fishing for other crimes. That's not how trials work. You want to put Hunter Biden and Joe Biden on trial, find a grand jury that will indict him.
This trial is about trump, not bidens.
Biden is indirectly involved with impeachment, as the House inquiry was launched after a whistleblower report showed Trump asked the Ukrainian president to investigate the former vice president and his son, Hunter Biden. Joe Biden needs to testify as well as the whistleblower. Again, I am all in favor of having Bolton and Mulvaney testifying but let's have Biden and the Whistleblower as well.
Biden is indirectly involved with impeachment, as the House inquiry was launched after a whistleblower report showed Trump asked the Ukrainian president to investigate the former vice president and his son, Hunter Biden. Joe Biden is on video bragging how he got the Ukrainian special prosecutor fired. The whole heart of the impeachment was Trump asking the Ukrainian president to investigate the Bidens in exchange for the release of financial aid. How can you not have the Bidens testify when they are at the epicenter of the impeachment?
Fattttty Bb wrote:
agip wrote:
in a trial you can't just pull in everybody you think of as a witness...you can't go fishing for other crimes. That's not how trials work. You want to put Hunter Biden and Joe Biden on trial, find a grand jury that will indict him.
This trial is about trump, not bidens.
Biden is indirectly involved with impeachment, as the House inquiry was launched after a whistleblower report showed Trump asked the Ukrainian president to investigate the former vice president and his son, Hunter Biden. Joe Biden needs to testify as well as the whistleblower. Again, I am all in favor of having Bolton and Mulvaney testifying but let's have Biden and the Whistleblower as well.
The evidence against Trump is the partial phone call transcript released by the WH, Mulvaney's brainfart of truth and the testimony of various diplomats. The accusation is that Trump wanted an annoucement of an investigation and didn't care if there actually was one. Obviously he was trying to screw over Biden.
Please give an example of what Biden or the whistleblower could say that would change any of that. Making accusations without evidence is meaningless.
add to the evidence list trump's confession when he asked china to investigate Bidens.
again, putting his own interests above those of the nation.
And of course asking foreign nations to campaign for him.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Fattttty Bb wrote:
Biden is indirectly involved with impeachment, as the House inquiry was launched after a whistleblower report showed Trump asked the Ukrainian president to investigate the former vice president and his son, Hunter Biden. Joe Biden needs to testify as well as the whistleblower. Again, I am all in favor of having Bolton and Mulvaney testifying but let's have Biden and the Whistleblower as well.
The evidence against Trump is the partial phone call transcript released by the WH, Mulvaney's brainfart of truth and the testimony of various diplomats. The accusation is that Trump wanted an annoucement of an investigation and didn't care if there actually was one. Obviously he was trying to screw over Biden.
Please give an example of what Biden or the whistleblower could say that would change any of that. Making accusations without evidence is meaningless.
Aztec - I will lay out the pertinent facts:
1) Hunter Biden was paid millions by Burisma for a job that he was not qualified for. He is also a reprehensible person who is also a drug addict, an alcoholic and and an all-around bad dude. Oh, he also went after his dead brother's wife.
2) A special prosecutor for Ukraine begins investigating the Bidens for malfeasance.
3) Joe Biden steps in and brags how he got the special prosecutor fired.
4) Donald Trump suggests that the Ukranian government investigate the Biden mess.
5) The heart of the impeachment - Donald Trump pressured the Ukrainian government to investigate the Bidens in exchange for a release of financial aid.
6) the money is ultmately released to Ukraine.
7) There was ultimately no quid pro quo.
8) The House impeachment case is so weak that they can not draw up Articles of impeachment with any of the impeachment crimes - bribery / treason - stated in the Constitution.
Do you not understand how integral the Bidens are in this impeachment trial? They are at the epicenter.
I'm done with this fattyy guy, He is not negotiating in good faith.
anyone at this point who says Biden inappropriately fired that prosecutor is just another trumpist jerk, coked out on fox and breitbart.
I'm out.
This is Pickens county, 75% Republican - highest GOP support anywhere in SC. Oh, and 89% white. Might as well be a Trump rally.
Democrats lose again wrote:
https://twitter.com/BarrettSallee/status/1216890106277007361?s=20https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216961142867681280?s=20Suck on that you democrat (Iran loving traitors) pieces of trash!!!!
Democrats lose again!!!!!
there will always be a Confederacy.
Ernest wrote:
This is Pickens county, 75% Republican - highest GOP support anywhere in SC.
Oh, and 89% white.
Might as well be a Trump rally.
Democrats lose again wrote:
https://twitter.com/BarrettSallee/status/1216890106277007361?s=20https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216961142867681280?s=20Suck on that you democrat (Iran loving traitors) pieces of trash!!!!
Democrats lose again!!!!!
agip wrote:
I'm done with this fattyy guy, He is not negotiating in good faith.
I'm out.
Fatty is Sally. Who is also Sally Vix (and variations such as Sally Vixen) Polly Plumper, and Fatty R, Beltbuckle.
She has the ability to get around the LRC Cloudflare rules which limit unregistered posters on this thread to a single name per week, and a limited number of posts that week.
The Sally Vix seems to have been permanently banned by LRC. Now Sally is trolling from some location that allows her to use multiple IPs.
No way Trump pressured Ukraine into a Biden investigation!
Why would he when he can call on China and Russia to hack-and-slash for him...
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing..."
-DJT, Miami, 27 July 2016
"China should start an investigation into the Bidens..."
DJT, Washington. 3 October 2019
agip wrote:
there will always be a Confederacy.
The Confederacy was always about keeping social status. It has nothing to do with politics at all. Trumpers are exactly the same way. That is why they can easily spin their heads around, like in the movie The Exorcist, and accept any 180-turns Trump makes. They have no moral or ethical standards to any kind. They only want to grab "more than their fair share" from people who are do not look like them, to act like them (scary people who are not white, liberals, and conservatives who believe in social equality).
agip wrote:
I'm done with this fattyy guy, He is not negotiating in good faith.
anyone at this point who says Biden inappropriately fired that prosecutor is just another trumpist jerk, coked out on fox and breitbart.
I'm out.
The fat one is just Sally under another moniker.
And Sally is a known troll.
Your response (to walk) is the correct one: Don't feed the troll!
Fattttty B wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
For the last time the GOP is not interested in witnesses relevant to the trump impeachment trial. The WH has obstructed the investigation and the GOP will ensure they shut the rest of it out from any reasonable process. You just have to look at the defense so far to get a good sense of trump's guilt. It's pretty straight forward.
You only want witnesses who can potentially hurt Trump. The House impeachment hearing was a partisan debacle. Do you want a fair Senate trial? If so you can't just want witnesses who can hurt Trump. He needs to be able to defend himself. Why are you opposed to having witnesses testify who can exonerate him? Are you about having a fair trial or ONLY about having a trial to convict him? Do you want the truth or just want him removed from office? Please tell me what you want.
Funny you are assuming anyone with direct knowledge of the accusations is immediately bad for trump... that in itself screams guilty. Please enlighten us... what does anything that Joe and Hunter Biden did or say (or could do or say) have to do with Trump's possible guilt in this?
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