Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Ciro wrote:
Utterly disgusting and dodgy as f*ck.
Epstein, Alex Acosta, Barr, Trump - has he drained the swamp yet?
How can Maurene Comey be involved in prosecuting the Epstein case? She needs to recuse herself from the case, asap. The Comey family are very big supporters of the Clintons. Would she cover up for Bill like her daddy did for Hillary?
We cannot have another scam in which a Comey protects a Clinton. The swamp needs draining.
If that's true then I agree.
Fat hurts wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
How can Maurene Comey be involved in prosecuting the Epstein case? She needs to recuse herself from the case, asap. The Comey family are very big supporters of the Clintons. Would she cover up for Bill like her daddy did for Hillary?
We cannot have another scam in which a Comey protects a Clinton. The swamp needs draining.
If that's true then I agree.
uh...who's going to tell Rigged that Comey took the election away from Hillary Clinton and gave it to Trump?
This guy was perhaps the most serious about taking the dear leader down.. another one I would happily vote for.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/politics/tom-steyer-presidential-campaign/index.html
Runningart2004 wrote:
agip wrote:
Joe Biden seems to be trying his darndest to get us four more years of trump. It's new screwups every day. In theory he's the only reasonable democrat. Who is both electable and not promising to upset the american economy based on fake statistics. But he's going to give it all away because he can't keep it all straight in his head.
Look at this. He's falling off a cliff. And he deserves it.
BUT
he's still the front runner and he has time to figure out how to stop mess-ups.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.htmlThe sky is not falling.
The early front runner rarely if ever wins the nomination for either party. 2016 was an exception when both early front runners won out.
The candidates are not too liberal not do they have character issues.
Remember when Obama, a black man pushing for universal health care, won the presidency? He was painted the most liberal senator because in 2007 he was (due mostly to a lack of votes), but even in '06 and '05 he was no where near the center.
Remember when Bill Clinton just kept bouncing back from his allegations?
I think Biden is well past his time and would have easily won in 2016. He's too old. We need to stop electing the elderly into the highest office in the land.
I want to support Harris. She's not Bernie Sanders or Warren. She's not an ideologue.
Alan
she may not be an ideologue but she's promised to take away half the nation's health care and basically pledged to reopen some very vivid racial hurts to support fed mandated bussing, a policy almost no one wants.
I'd be fine with Harris if she tacks toward the center and stops making ridiculous campaign stands that will alienate huge gobs of the Dem party and every anti-trump republican.
True, but..... wrote:
Pedophilia is not a partisan issue—or at least it shouldn’t be. Epstein needs to go down along with all of his friends, just like the Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist convention. They are disgusting pieces of human garbage in my book.
I criticized the Southern Baptist convention quite a lot throughout the years.
But you are dead wrong in linking the SBC to any kind of crimes against children. The SBC has zero authority over its member churches. In the Baptist church, each local church makes all its own decisions. The SBC pools money from the churches for (hopefully) benevolent purposes. It meets once a year to vote on non-binding resolutions. And obviously, as a group, they condemn pedophilia in the strongest terms. A resolution on this was passed in 2013.
If any local church finds that one of its members or staff abuses children then it is that church's responsibility to take appropriate action. The SBC would not be involved at all.
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
If that's true then I agree.
uh...who's going to tell Rigged that Comey took the election away from Hillary Clinton and gave it to Trump?
Different Comey.
If there is even a hint of conflict of interest in this case then recusal is appropriate. This guy needs to rot in prison the rest of his life. I don't want him out on a technicality.
agip wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
The sky is not falling.
The early front runner rarely if ever wins the nomination for either party. 2016 was an exception when both early front runners won out.
The candidates are not too liberal not do they have character issues.
Remember when Obama, a black man pushing for universal health care, won the presidency? He was painted the most liberal senator because in 2007 he was (due mostly to a lack of votes), but even in '06 and '05 he was no where near the center.
Remember when Bill Clinton just kept bouncing back from his allegations?
I think Biden is well past his time and would have easily won in 2016. He's too old. We need to stop electing the elderly into the highest office in the land.
I want to support Harris. She's not Bernie Sanders or Warren. She's not an ideologue.
Alan
she may not be an ideologue but she's promised to take away half the nation's health care and basically pledged to reopen some very vivid racial hurts to support fed mandated bussing, a policy almost no one wants.
I'd be fine with Harris if she tacks toward the center and stops making ridiculous campaign stands that will alienate huge gobs of the Dem party and every anti-trump republican.
Why don’t we make this simple... just ask yourself how serious you are about removing this $hitstain from the WH. The answer is you will vote for anyone who is not trump. And since we don’t think there actually anyone worse than him in the lineup that means we vote for anyone who makes it, capeesh?
Its Too Simple Brah wrote:
agip wrote:
she may not be an ideologue but she's promised to take away half the nation's health care and basically pledged to reopen some very vivid racial hurts to support fed mandated bussing, a policy almost no one wants.
I'd be fine with Harris if she tacks toward the center and stops making ridiculous campaign stands that will alienate huge gobs of the Dem party and every anti-trump republican.
Why don’t we make this simple... just ask yourself how serious you are about removing this $hitstain from the WH. The answer is you will vote for anyone who is not trump. And since we don’t think there actually anyone worse than him in the lineup that means we vote for anyone who makes it, capeesh?
no doubt I will vote for the D on the ticket.
I'm just getting very worred about a D party that is rapidly unmooring itself from the center. It's like these candidates think there are points to be gained if Ivy League professors approve of their cultural stands.
The betting odds of trump winning reelection went up materially after the debates - people are getting a sense of how absurd Warren and Sanders are politically, and how weak Biden is. People in the middle are going to say 'do I really want to side with the D party and its crazy? No, I do not.'
remember, dumb as bricks Trumpers - much of the right wing conspiracy goop comes straight from Moscow in an effort to make you even stupider than you think you are.
reports now that the Seth Rich murder thing was just one more Russian plant.
Trumpers and Trumpettes. Don't be any stupider than you are naturally. Do not repeat Anti-American Russian propaganda.
Hint: Virtually all the anti-Clinton conspiracies you hold close to your hearts are fake news, from Moscow with giggles.
I'm looking at you, rigged.
WASHINGTON — In the summer of 2016, Russian intelligence agents secretly planted a fake report claiming that Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich was gunned down by a squad of assassins working for Hillary Clinton, giving rise to a notorious conspiracy theory that captivated conservative activists and was later promoted from inside President Trump’s White House, a Yahoo News investigation has found.
Conundrum wrote:
You can't generalize about Obama being liberal and winning to our current situation. After Bush and his war, America was looking for someone good and honest and articulate.
This group of socialist democrats have a platform that will not be embraced in a general election. We need one of the more moderate democrat candidates who will connect with the general population. Warren and Sanders will not. Harris unfortunately is slippery and has already lost the respect of many of us. Her raising her hand about getting rid of private insurance and lying the next day saying she didn't understand the question (even though the same question was asked the night before). Her misleading attack on Biden about the failed policy of forced busing disappointed me.
This far left agenda will not sell in a general election.
Correct! This is an accurate assessment of the situation. Trump will destroy any of these far leftists in the general election.
KAG2020
Fat hurts wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Ok, let's clarify. You support killing unborn babies but are against killing babies that survived an abortion procedure. That's means ALL abortions should fail and all the babies should be saved. Pretty convoluted logic you have there.
I am pro-life, Rigged. Get that through your head. I do not condone abortion.
I also do not condone the death penalty.
Human life is sacred.
This is the first time you have come out of the pro-life closet. Don't be shy to defend your position the next time the dems here praise abortion and Planned Parenthood.
Fat hurts wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
How can Maurene Comey be involved in prosecuting the Epstein case? She needs to recuse herself from the case, asap. The Comey family are very big supporters of the Clintons. Would she cover up for Bill like her daddy did for Hillary?
We cannot have another scam in which a Comey protects a Clinton. The swamp needs draining.
If that's true then I agree.
Yep, is true. She needs to go.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7222949/amp/Maurene-Comey-U-S-prosecutor-working-case-billionaire-sex-offender-Jeffrey-Epstein.htmlagip wrote:
Its Too Simple Brah wrote:
Why don’t we make this simple... just ask yourself how serious you are about removing this $hitstain from the WH. The answer is you will vote for anyone who is not trump. And since we don’t think there actually anyone worse than him in the lineup that means we vote for anyone who makes it, capeesh?
no doubt I will vote for the D on the ticket.
I'm just getting very worred about a D party that is rapidly unmooring itself from the center. It's like these candidates think there are points to be gained if Ivy League professors approve of their cultural stands.
The betting odds of trump winning reelection went up materially after the debates - people are getting a sense of how absurd Warren and Sanders are politically, and how weak Biden is. People in the middle are going to say 'do I really want to side with the D party and its crazy? No, I do not.'
Correct! agip, you are finally coming to your senses. The Democrat party has indeed swung wildly to the left. You really do not have moderate to go against Trump.
KAG2020
agip wrote:
she may not be an ideologue but she's promised to take away half the nation's health care
This is false framing. Keep taking your talking points from Republicants and you will play into their hands.
Health insurance is not health care. Nobody's health care would get taken away under a single payer plan. The delivery mechanism would be changed, it would eliminate enormous amounts of bureaucratic costs and would mean that money would go towards health care rather than insurance company profits.
Single payer would cover everybody and save $2 trillion. It is easily the absolutely best, no brainer policy proposal.
agip wrote:
remember, dumb as bricks Trumpers - much of the right wing conspiracy goop comes straight from Moscow in an effort to make you even stupider than you think you are.
reports now that the Seth Rich murder thing was just one more Russian plant.
Trumpers and Trumpettes. Don't be any stupider than you are naturally. Do not repeat Anti-American Russian propaganda.
Hint: Virtually all the anti-Clinton conspiracies you hold close to your hearts are fake news, from Moscow with giggles.
I'm looking at you, rigged.
WASHINGTON — In the summer of 2016, Russian intelligence agents secretly planted a fake report claiming that Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich was gunned down by a squad of assassins working for Hillary Clinton, giving rise to a notorious conspiracy theory that captivated conservative activists and was later promoted from inside President Trump’s White House, a Yahoo News investigation has found.
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-the-true-origins-of-the-seth-rich-conspiracy-a-yahoo-news-investigation-100000831.html
It’s amazing how easily Russians manipulate them.
Often wrong but never in doubt wrote:
agip wrote:
she may not be an ideologue but she's promised to take away half the nation's health care
This is false framing. Keep taking your talking points from Republicants and you will play into their hands.
Health insurance is not health care. Nobody's health care would get taken away under a single payer plan. The delivery mechanism would be changed, it would eliminate enormous amounts of bureaucratic costs and would mean that money would go towards health care rather than insurance company profits.
Single payer would cover everybody and save $2 trillion. It is easily the absolutely best, no brainer policy proposal.
$2T saved? LOL!!!! Reminds me of the time when Obama promised to save $2500 per year on premiums and you get to keep your doctor too.
Often wrong but never in doubt wrote:
agip wrote:
she may not be an ideologue but she's promised to take away half the nation's health care
This is false framing. Keep taking your talking points from Republicants and you will play into their hands.
Health insurance is not health care. Nobody's health care would get taken away under a single payer plan. The delivery mechanism would be changed, it would eliminate enormous amounts of bureaucratic costs and would mean that money would go towards health care rather than insurance company profits.
Single payer would cover everybody and save $2 trillion. It is easily the absolutely best, no brainer policy proposal.
fair enough - I'm assuming people understand how this works so I'm using shorthand.
But telling tens of millions of people that they have to abandon the private health insurance they like is indeed taking away their health insurance. A lot of Ds assume that the country is a Warren-esque hellscape of misery and anger, eager for change and newness. It's not. Most people do not want their economic and health care upturned and put at the mercy of bureaucrats. I mean millions of union workers have negotiated for health care...that's gone? Everyone has to throw all their health care insurance into the air and take whatever falls their way?
It might work out in the end, it probably would. But in the meantime you are making an enormous ask of people who are getting good health care.
And you are destroying the jobs of millions of people in the health care industry.
None of this is easy, but the Ds are promising chaos and no one knows how the private insurance industry would get taken out. That's not a great platform plank.
agip wrote:
Often wrong but never in doubt wrote:
This is false framing. Keep taking your talking points from Republicants and you will play into their hands.
Health insurance is not health care. Nobody's health care would get taken away under a single payer plan. The delivery mechanism would be changed, it would eliminate enormous amounts of bureaucratic costs and would mean that money would go towards health care rather than insurance company profits.
Single payer would cover everybody and save $2 trillion. It is easily the absolutely best, no brainer policy proposal.
fair enough - I'm assuming people understand how this works so I'm using shorthand.
But telling tens of millions of people that they have to abandon the private health insurance they like is indeed taking away their health insurance. A lot of Ds assume that the country is a Warren-esque hellscape of misery and anger, eager for change and newness. It's not. Most people do not want their economic and health care upturned and put at the mercy of bureaucrats. I mean millions of union workers have negotiated for health care...that's gone? Everyone has to throw all their health care insurance into the air and take whatever falls their way?
It might work out in the end, it probably would. But in the meantime you are making an enormous ask of people who are getting good health care.
And you are destroying the jobs of millions of people in the health care industry.
None of this is easy, but the Ds are promising chaos and no one knows how the private insurance industry would get taken out. That's not a great platform plank.
You obviously do not understand how it works or you would stop conflating health care with health insurance and would stop spreading FUD.
Every other industrialized country in the world provides single payer health insurance, covers their entire population, and spends less per person and has better health outcomes.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Often wrong but never in doubt wrote:
This is false framing. Keep taking your talking points from Republicants and you will play into their hands.
Health insurance is not health care. Nobody's health care would get taken away under a single payer plan. The delivery mechanism would be changed, it would eliminate enormous amounts of bureaucratic costs and would mean that money would go towards health care rather than insurance company profits.
Single payer would cover everybody and save $2 trillion. It is easily the absolutely best, no brainer policy proposal.
$2T saved? LOL!!!! Reminds me of the time when Obama promised to save $2500 per year on premiums and you get to keep your doctor too.
The $2 is from a Koch brothers funded study.
agip wrote:
Often wrong but never in doubt wrote:
This is false framing. Keep taking your talking points from Republicants and you will play into their hands.
Health insurance is not health care. Nobody's health care would get taken away under a single payer plan. The delivery mechanism would be changed, it would eliminate enormous amounts of bureaucratic costs and would mean that money would go towards health care rather than insurance company profits.
Single payer would cover everybody and save $2 trillion. It is easily the absolutely best, no brainer policy proposal.
fair enough - I'm assuming people understand how this works so I'm using shorthand.
But telling tens of millions of people that they have to abandon the private health insurance they like is indeed taking away their health insurance. A lot of Ds assume that the country is a Warren-esque hellscape of misery and anger, eager for change and newness. It's not. Most people do not want their economic and health care upturned and put at the mercy of bureaucrats. I mean millions of union workers have negotiated for health care...that's gone? Everyone has to throw all their health care insurance into the air and take whatever falls their way?
It might work out in the end, it probably would. But in the meantime you are making an enormous ask of people who are getting good health care.
And you are destroying the jobs of millions of people in the health care industry.
None of this is easy, but the Ds are promising chaos and no one knows how the private insurance industry would get taken out. That's not a great platform plank.
Holy sh!t! He's nailed it. I agree with agip.
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