Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

How are pride parades going, queers?

Democrats lose again!!!!

L L wrote:

learn you something wrote:

Obama (or Bush, or Clinton) could have done the exact same thing.

I don't think they would have attempted the exact same thing. That's one point.

There are lots of things Trump does that no other president would consider.

And I think if they would have attempted it, the Congress of their time would have had a veto proof response to block it.

But mostly it's the fact that Trump pushes limits that have not been pushed.

Like blocking these subpoenas.

Maybe Obama, or Bush, or Clinton would have done the exact same thing, maybe they wouldn't. All of those presidents abused these sorts of delegated powers in various ways. Too extensive to make a list.

The idea that Trump is different from other presidents may or may not be true, but it just shows the danger of relying on norms instead of structural safeguards.

tariffs wrote:

And tariffs.

Tariffs are just one form of taxes. Under the constitution the sole power to levy taxes is vested in Congress. The only reason Trump has power to change the tariffs under emergency powers is because Congress, long ago, ceded vast amounts of authority over tariffs to the executive. Again, the problem is structural AND also personal. But other presidents have abused tariff authority as well. Many examples.

learn you something wrote:

tariffs wrote:

And tariffs.

Tariffs are just one form of taxes. Under the constitution the sole power to levy taxes is vested in Congress. The only reason Trump has power to change the tariffs under emergency powers is because Congress, long ago, ceded vast amounts of authority over tariffs to the executive. Again, the problem is structural AND also personal. But other presidents have abused tariff authority as well. Many examples.

Really. Please provide a link to the executive order Trump signed that gives him unlimited power to impose tariffs.

know you anything? wrote:

learn you something wrote:

Tariffs are just one form of taxes. Under the constitution the sole power to levy taxes is vested in Congress. The only reason Trump has power to change the tariffs under emergency powers is because Congress, long ago, ceded vast amounts of authority over tariffs to the executive. Again, the problem is structural AND also personal. But other presidents have abused tariff authority as well. Many examples.

Really. Please provide a link to the executive order Trump signed that gives him unlimited power to impose tariffs.

It seems that the poster, learn you something, is of the opinion that Trump can write an Executive Order to usurp any power that the Constitution gives to congress. ... The word is that Trump's re-election committee is frustrated because Trump has shown no interest in anything to do with running for president in 2020, and only wants to do rally events. Trump is prepared for election defeat. But do not worry. He can write an Executive Order to void the election and keep himself in power. And there is nothing that Congress or the Constitution can do about it. They are "structurally" flawed.

know you anything? wrote:

learn you something wrote:

Tariffs are just one form of taxes. Under the constitution the sole power to levy taxes is vested in Congress. The only reason Trump has power to change the tariffs under emergency powers is because Congress, long ago, ceded vast amounts of authority over tariffs to the executive. Again, the problem is structural AND also personal. But other presidents have abused tariff authority as well. Many examples.

Really. Please provide a link to the executive order Trump signed that gives him unlimited power to impose tariffs.

You are completely missing the point. Trump did not give himself unlimited power to impose tariffs. Congress delegated it. Under Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 and Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974, among other places in law.

The emergency declaration Trump issued earlier this year was a precursor and serves as the predicate action for those threatened tariffs. I assume you can google that emergency declaration if you want to read it.

In theory these delegations are not unlimited, but in the way they are structured, such as not defining what qualifies as an "emergency" they are practically unlimited. The courts are not without culpability here either, as these grants transparently violate the nondelegation doctrine but courts have ignored that to uphold them.

Bush abused these same powers in imposing steel tariffs in 2002. to cite one previous example.

exec order wrote:

It seems that the poster, learn you something, is of the opinion that Trump can write an Executive Order to usurp any power that the Constitution gives to congress. ... The word is that Trump's re-election committee is frustrated because Trump has shown no interest in anything to do with running for president in 2020, and only wants to do rally events. Trump is prepared for election defeat. But do not worry. He can write an Executive Order to void the election and keep himself in power. And there is nothing that Congress or the Constitution can do about it. They are "structurally" flawed.

You are a special kind of stupid if that is what you got out of those posts. Go back and read them again, slowly...

As expected. You have no link to an Executive Order where Trump grants himself unlimited power over tariffs.

learn you something wrote:

exec order wrote:

It seems that the poster, learn you something, is of the opinion that Trump can write an Executive Order to usurp any power that the Constitution gives to congress. ... The word is that Trump's re-election committee is frustrated because Trump has shown no interest in anything to do with running for president in 2020, and only wants to do rally events. Trump is prepared for election defeat. But do not worry. He can write an Executive Order to void the election and keep himself in power. And there is nothing that Congress or the Constitution can do about it. They are "structurally" flawed.

You are a special kind of stupid if that is what you got out of those posts. Go back and read them again, slowly...

You have proven yourself to be a truly unique level of stupid.

exec order wrote:

The word is that Trump's re-election committee is frustrated because Trump has shown no interest in anything to do with running for president in 2020, and only wants to do rally events. Trump is prepared for election defeat. But do not worry. He can write an Executive Order to void the election and keep himself in power. And there is nothing that Congress or the Constitution can do about it. They are "structurally" flawed.

Can you be more specific as to why the re-election committee is frustrated?

Tiny won the last election by just doing rallies and sending tweets. What else do they want him to do?

Fat hurts wrote:

exec order wrote:

The word is that Trump's re-election committee is frustrated because Trump has shown no interest in anything to do with running for president in 2020, and only wants to do rally events. Trump is prepared for election defeat. But do not worry. He can write an Executive Order to void the election and keep himself in power. And there is nothing that Congress or the Constitution can do about it. They are "structurally" flawed.

Can you be more specific as to why the re-election committee is frustrated?

Tiny won the last election by just doing rallies and sending tweets. What else do they want him to do?

Fat hurts wrote:

exec order wrote:

The word is that Trump's re-election committee is frustrated because Trump has shown no interest in anything to do with running for president in 2020, and only wants to do rally events. Trump is prepared for election defeat. But do not worry. He can write an Executive Order to void the election and keep himself in power. And there is nothing that Congress or the Constitution can do about it. They are "structurally" flawed.

Can you be more specific as to why the re-election committee is frustrated?

Tiny won the last election by just doing rallies and sending tweets. What else do they want him to do?

The story is that he has no planned agenda for a second term, no new message for his campaign or interest in how to spend his campaign money. My observation is that he is focused on ranting about Mueller and attacking Biden. Attacking Biden is stupid as Trump will have no effect on the Democrat primaries and if he believes he can take down Biden with insults and accusations why not wait until Biden is nominated.

know you anything? wrote:

As expected. You have no link to an Executive Order where Trump grants himself unlimited power over tariffs.

I never claimed he had signed such an Executive Order. I also can't produce an exectuive order where he commanded you to learn anything.

know you anything? wrote:

learn you something wrote:

Tariffs are just one form of taxes. Under the constitution the sole power to levy taxes is vested in Congress. The only reason Trump has power to change the tariffs under emergency powers is because Congress, long ago, ceded vast amounts of authority over tariffs to the executive. Again, the problem is structural AND also personal. But other presidents have abused tariff authority as well. Many examples.

Really. Please provide a link to the executive order Trump signed that gives him unlimited power to impose tariffs.

know you anything? wrote:

learn you something wrote:

Tariffs are just one form of taxes. Under the constitution the sole power to levy taxes is vested in Congress. The only reason Trump has power to change the tariffs under emergency powers is because Congress, long ago, ceded vast amounts of authority over tariffs to the executive. Again, the problem is structural AND also personal. But other presidents have abused tariff authority as well. Many examples.

Really. Please provide a link to the executive order Trump signed that gives him unlimited power to impose tariffs.

I apologize. I see that I blame everyone except the president for the abuse of executive orders. I will try to think before posting again.

I see defenders of Trump have really fallen off lately. Not feeling so froggy, eh?

When all the dust settles, containing all the Propecia and blonde hair dye and KFC Buckets and McDonald's cheeseburger wrappers, I will levy the I Told You So that I have promised is coming. BUT, those Trumpers will likely not be here to read it. I will provide it anyway.

Until then...

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Kim Jong Un had his half-brother assassinated in 2017. His half-brother may have been working with the CIA.

Trump's response: I will make sure that the CIA does not spy on Kim Jong Un in the future.

This is your president.

Presidential wrote:

Kim Jong Un had his half-brother assassinated in 2017. His half-brother may have been working with the CIA.

Trump's response: I will make sure that the CIA does not spy on Kim Jong Un in the future.

This is your president.

Whose side is Trump on? If any Democrat showed 1/1000th of the disloyalty to America Trump has showed, he'd be attacked 24/7 by Republicans.

Rs are the most depraved hypocrites I've ever seen.

the good news is that the deplorables are losing badly. Trump gets his 42% against any Dem, and that's that. Not enough to win.

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