Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

L L wrote:

What about Trump's unsecure phone use?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/05/trumps-unsecured-iphones-make-clintons-basement-server-look-like-fort-knox

As president, no less.

Let's FRY him for that!

I think alan covered my point. I was using your logic: : "trump was not indicted so he is innocent of everything, even unrelated problems" and applied them to HRC and Bill.

I agree that HRC did some bad things with the emails. But I was mocking gently your logic of saying 'a finding of no collusion means there was no obstruction'

put clearly, this is how it lays out for me, and I hope, for you:

HRC was innocent in Benghazi, but not of the email problems.

Bill was innocent in whitewater but not of the perjury problems.

Trump was innocent of collusion but not of the obstruction issues.

Does that match your views?

Okay. We pretty much agree on a lot.

Ultimately trump is trying to conceal smaller & smaller issues that no previous president concealed. It’s not reasonable & people won’t vote for personal secrecy as an appropriate platform, regardless of the more complex legal aspects.

It’s ironic because it mirrors some of HRC’s least attractive qualities.

Sally Vix wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Using Trump logic.....she was investigated and not indicted therefore nothing happened right?

Trump and associates were investigated. Although some evidence of wrongdoing or unethical behavior was found not enough evidence was found to indict.

Meanwhile Trump possibly obstructed the investigation not once, not twice, but ten times. Mueller couldn’t come to a conclusion on obstruction because of the DOJ policy to not indict a sitting president. Therefore he left it up to Congress to determine the final outcome on obstruction.

If not for the DOJ Policy Trump might find himself with 12 charges going back to the Cohen payment.

Alan

Alan, did Hillary commit crimes? Answer me that. Be honest.

Over the Emails? Yes. At the very least criminally negligent.

Also because someone was saying not to underestimate Trump’s popularity.

Comparison of Gallup Data:

He is the most unpopular president since Gallup started polling.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Alan, did Hillary commit crimes? Answer me that. Be honest.

Over the Emails? Yes. At the very least criminally negligent.

Also because someone was saying not to underestimate Trump’s popularity.

Comparison of Gallup Data:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating

He is the most unpopular president since Gallup started polling.

Alan

To be clear on HRC. While she is guilty of wrongdoing and unethical behavior the evidence did not meet the level needed for indictment....or she would have been indicted. Similarly, while Trump and associates were guilty of wrongdoing as it related to “collusion” or “conspiracy” and mostly unethical behavior, the evidence did not meet the level needed for indictment....or someone would have been indicted.

See what I did there.

So the question becomes what is the bar for our politicians’ behavior? Just a bit north of criminality?

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

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Also because someone was saying not to underestimate Trump’s popularity.

Comparison of Gallup Data:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating

He is the most unpopular president since Gallup started polling.

Alan

And yet almost every single R out there will hold their nose at the voting booth and pull the lever for him anyways.

Let me know when this translates into loss of votes for him because right now. If you voted for him in 2016, do you really have a reason not to in 2020 yet?

Not Really My Name But It Could Be wrote:

Oiled wrote:

Pay for play. No wonder Trump approved of Israel's claim to the Golan Heights. It makes much more sense now,

What the heck does "a 153-square mile radius in the southern part of the Golan Heights" even mean?

(I know those are not your words - just a quote from the article. But I have no idea what they mean)

It means 153 square miles encompassed within a radius. Or, just under a 7 mile radius.

Sally Vix wrote:

Racket wrote:

Well I didn't know Beto was emo and I forgot Elizabeth Warren was (is still technically?) a professor at Harvard.

If Harvard had any standards (and was not so liberal), she would be expunged from the faculty for lying on her application.

Trump never went to calls during college. Yet he claims he got a degree. He should be expunged from the presidency for lying.

Sally Vix wrote:

How was Hillary's email scandal bogus.

How is the Mueller report bogus? Your going to burn all of the reports once Trump declares the USA is DONE, and the new new of the country is Trumpland.

Sally Vix wrote:

L L wrote:

What about Trump's unsecure phone use?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/05/trumps-unsecured-iphones-make-clintons-basement-server-look-like-fort-knox

As president, no less.

Let's FRY him for that!

That is a lot of lard to fry.

agip wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

How was Hillary's email scandal bogus.

I think alan covered my point. I was using your logic: : "trump was not indicted so he is innocent of everything, even unrelated problems"

Sally also concluded that the Mueller Report claims Trump is 100% innocent, and Obama and the Clintons are 100% responsible for making Trump angry which forced him to commit crimes going back to when Trump was a child.

Racket wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

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Also because someone was saying not to underestimate Trump’s popularity.

Comparison of Gallup Data:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating

He is the most unpopular president since Gallup started polling.

Alan

And yet almost every single R out there will hold their nose at the voting booth and pull the lever for him anyways.

Let me know when this translates into loss of votes for him because right now. If you voted for him in 2016, do you really have a reason not to in 2020 yet?

obviously trump has been very bad for farmers and the auto industry, so there's that.

but more important is the pendulum factor - where people get sick of one personality as president and flip back to the other. Usually it takes 8 years, but we only have to flip 100,000 votes here. That's not much, esp when you figure in the fire in the bellies of the anti-trump voters.

Plus he’s hopeless on his promises, even consensus issues like infrastructure, because he insisted on “getting” something before agreeing even to his own projects!

jesseriley wrote:

Plus he’s hopeless on his promises, even consensus issues like infrastructure, because he insisted on “getting” something before agreeing even to his own projects!

$25B spent on long overdue infrastructure projects, rather and a useless wall of ego, would help prevent Trump from losing so many swing voters. But, Trump does not care about infrastructure projects because the majority of them would be in the horrible blue states he hates so much.

jesseriley wrote:

Plus he’s hopeless on his promises, even consensus issues like infrastructure, because he insisted on “getting” something before agreeing even to his own projects!

disagree with you here

Trump has done pretty well in completing his promises

He's owned the libs from day one, he's upset the apple cart pretty well, he's infuriated the elites. he's been a big man after professorial obama infuriated the rurals. He has, over and over, told the whites that the nation is theirs, not the brown's nation. he has entertained us with his reality show of a white house.

But more than that, he has the judges, anti-environment, he has ended all kinds of treaties like tpp, nafta, paris, etc. Supposedly he has cut regulations but I'm not sure on that one.

No politiican gets all his promises done, but trump has done pretty well on that regard.

BS! Tax cut for elites. No action either way on healthcare. No infrastructure (he’s a builder, remember?). He’s filled the swamp with more swamp than ever before. He hasn’t locked up HRC, but he’s gotten his campaign manager locked up. Hasn’t built the wall or gotten Mexico to pay for it. He’s given the House back to Pelosi.

A clown ? platform, clown administration.