Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Besides Monica Lewinsky, you have ...

Paula Jones

Juanita Broaddrick

Leslie Millwee

Kathleen Willey

and others who were too embarrassed to come forward. The guy is a rapist and sexual assaulter but would be applauded by the Democratic party today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Paula Jones accused Clinton of sexual harassment. The only thing that could be proven was that they were alone together in a hotel room. If he did what she claimed, and she wasn't particularly credible, it wasn't a criminal act. She didn't work for either him or the state of Arkansas so it wasn't even sexual harassment.

Milwee and Willee claimed they were groped, which is not a criminal act and is the same thing Trumped bragged about and was accused of.

Broadrick was he said, she said. I tend to believe her, but there is no evidence and at one time she recanted her accusation.

Saying there were rape victims too embarrassed to come forward is bullish*t. You could say that about any man.

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

It's getting worse and worse for Trump every day. The House is very busy requesting documents from people, setting up hearings, etc.

This whole idea you Trumpers like to spew that it's been 2 years and nothing has been found yet (which is beyond bogus of course) is going to come crashing down.

It is getting more and more likely (I'm not calling it just yet) that Trump will be indicted while still a sitting President. It is a ridiculous DOJ guideline to begin with, it isn't a law, and it isn't in the Constitution.

The fact is that there is SOME line that can't be crossed as far as being indicted while in office. If Trump shot someone to death on camera, while he actually would still maintain many supporters, he would be arrested and indicted. So, now we then are just talking about severity of crimes.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Flagpole, just to clarify ... you have been and are currently guaranteeing that Trump will NOT finish his first term?

Flagpole wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole, just to clarify ... you have been and are currently guaranteeing that Trump will NOT finish his first term?

I am not using the word "guarantee". I am "predicting" that he will not finish his first term. I have also already said that of all the things I might be wrong about, that the timing of Trump's comeuppance is the most at risk. You Trumpers think I will be crushed if Trump makes it to the end of his first term. Not true at all. I am disappointed every day that he remains in office, because he is dangerous, so I do WANT him legally removed from office as soon as possible, but I am more than willing to wait for proper justice.

So, these are my predictions (which I have previously posted in bold below):

Charges will include:

Obstruction of Justice

Money Laundering

Conspiracy (could be bribery instead, but it will be as a result of the non-legal term, in this case, collusion)

Bank and/or wire fraud

Emoluments clause

Campaign finance

RICO

Something with regard to chattels

Privacy and/or hacking and/or computer fraud of some sort

Some other thing we don't know about

Trump has the possibility of escaping some of the above charges due to plea bargain and/or pardon. I have said this for a long time, so Trumpers out there, don't get your panties in a wad...don't make me prove that to you.

Since the time I began believing he WILL face time in prison though, I have believed he WILL serve some jail time even if he has plea deals and a pardon. I believe there will just be too much to plea and pardon away and that he WILL serve some time, even if it is minimal.

I do also predict that he will not make it out of his first term. He will be impeached by the House. He then will either resign or be convicted and removed by the Senate. As I said earlier, being wrong on the timing of it all is most at risk. He will face indictments. He will spend time in jail (again, unless he dies first or there is criminal behavior that prevents it or aliens from space make it not so). I care mostly about justice being served, and I am confident that it will be. I care secondarily about the timing of it all...BUT, I DO care about the timing. The sooner he is removed legally from office, the better our nation will be.

Democrats lose again wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) Investigations aren't over. This is beyond a ridiculous argument that you and other Trumpers make that because we haven't seen certain indictments yet that that means they aren't coming. Manafort hadn't been indicted yet either at one point during this investigation.

2) The campaign finance violations to which you refer were NOT felony ones regarding the Obama Administration. They ARE FELONY VIOLATIONS with regard to Trump...two counts of them too. There is a big difference between the two types of violations. Cohen is going to serve some time for this, and he has fingered Trump as a co-conspirator. Trump WILL be indicted for FELONY campaign finance law violations.

3) So, no one has ever gotten away with doing bad things for a long time before they were caught? Better tell that to a number of serial killers and mob bosses. Manafort got away with criminal behavior for a long time.

4) You do not know what witnesses have provided to investigators or Intel Committees. Weird to hang your hat on that.

Trump will be taken down by a lot of things, but one of them will be RICO. The Trump Organization is in the cross hairs of that type of investigation by the SDNY, and they WILL nail him for it.

You Trumpers are hanging your hat on some very weird sh!t.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

You’ll still be saying this in 2021 following Trump’s second inauguration.

L L wrote:

tsrumber wrote:

If he is gone by July, will you give us the biggest "I Told You So" in internet history?

No

I will bump my post, though.

Either way

I'm not adamant that he will be gone.

My feeling was that nothing happened to Trump the first two years because Republicans had a majority in the House and Paul Ryan wasn't going to call for an impeachment vote.

In August 2018, I said that Democrats will regain the House (which they did).

And then they would have the numbers to impeach.

Then I figured the discovery of evidence during the impeachment trial may sway public sentiment enough to convince 20 Republican senators to announce they will vote to convict. Then Trump would step down to avoid that vote.

Or maybe Trump would step down before that to many protect Don Jr.

My scenario is not likely to happen. It's easy to talk about what probably will happen.

Lying Flag wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

I am not using the word "guarantee". I am "predicting" that he will not finish his first term. I have also already said that of all the things I might be wrong about, that the timing of Trump's comeuppance is the most at risk. You Trumpers think I will be crushed if Trump makes it to the end of his first term. Not true at all. I am disappointed every day that he remains in office, because he is dangerous, so I do WANT him legally removed from office as soon as possible, but I am more than willing to wait for proper justice.

So, these are my predictions (which I have previously posted in bold below):

Charges will include:

Obstruction of Justice

Money Laundering

Conspiracy (could be bribery instead, but it will be as a result of the non-legal term, in this case, collusion)

Bank and/or wire fraud

Emoluments clause

Campaign finance

RICO

Something with regard to chattels

Privacy and/or hacking and/or computer fraud of some sort

Some other thing we don't know about

Trump has the possibility of escaping some of the above charges due to plea bargain and/or pardon. I have said this for a long time, so Trumpers out there, don't get your panties in a wad...don't make me prove that to you.

Since the time I began believing he WILL face time in prison though, I have believed he WILL serve some jail time even if he has plea deals and a pardon. I believe there will just be too much to plea and pardon away and that he WILL serve some time, even if it is minimal.

I do also predict that he will not make it out of his first term. He will be impeached by the House. He then will either resign or be convicted and removed by the Senate. As I said earlier, being wrong on the timing of it all is most at risk. He will face indictments. He will spend time in jail (again, unless he dies first or there is criminal behavior that prevents it or aliens from space make it not so). I care mostly about justice being served, and I am confident that it will be. I care secondarily about the timing of it all...BUT, I DO care about the timing. The sooner he is removed legally from office, the better our nation will be.

Funny how only NOW does Flagpole say that Trump may not be charged with some because of plea bargains or pardon.

What a weasel.

Flagpole wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole, just to clarify ... you have been and are currently guaranteeing that Trump will NOT finish his first term?

I am not using the word "guarantee". I am "predicting" that he will not finish his first term. I have also already said that of all the things I might be wrong about, that the timing of Trump's comeuppance is the most at risk. You Trumpers think I will be crushed if Trump makes it to the end of his first term. Not true at all. I am disappointed every day that he remains in office, because he is dangerous, so I do WANT him legally removed from office as soon as possible, but I am more than willing to wait for proper justice.

So, these are my predictions (which I have previously posted in bold below):

Charges will include:

Obstruction of Justice

Money Laundering

Conspiracy (could be bribery instead, but it will be as a result of the non-legal term, in this case, collusion)

Bank and/or wire fraud

Emoluments clause

Campaign finance

RICO

Something with regard to chattels

Privacy and/or hacking and/or computer fraud of some sort

Some other thing we don't know about

Trump has the possibility of escaping some of the above charges due to plea bargain and/or pardon. I have said this for a long time, so Trumpers out there, don't get your panties in a wad...don't make me prove that to you.

Since the time I began believing he WILL face time in prison though, I have believed he WILL serve some jail time even if he has plea deals and a pardon. I believe there will just be too much to plea and pardon away and that he WILL serve some time, even if it is minimal.

I do also predict that he will not make it out of his first term. He will be impeached by the House. He then will either resign or be convicted and removed by the Senate. As I said earlier, being wrong on the timing of it all is most at risk. He will face indictments. He will spend time in jail (again, unless he dies first or there is criminal behavior that prevents it or aliens from space make it not so). I care mostly about justice being served, and I am confident that it will be. I care secondarily about the timing of it all...BUT, I DO care about the timing. The sooner he is removed legally from office, the better our nation will be.