World record treadmill 50 mile

Xanax wrote:

The Elbow Game wrote:

Why are we taking out the commercials? Netflix doesn't carry Big Bang Theory and no way this dudes bringing his Big Bang DVD collection on a business trip, let alone to the fitness center and stopping mid-workout to change disks.

More likely it was 2 episodes of Seinfeld, 4 episodes of the Big Bang Theory, 2 episodes of How I Met Your Mother, and 2 episodes of Family Guy. Including commercials were talking 5 hours which would make for a great race between him and our current WR holder. With the right competition and maybe a faster paced sitcom such as Gilmore Girls, I've got my money on business trip guy.

Why are we talking about his running potential and ignoring the much more impressive performance in that he sat through that much Big Bang Theory?

+1

CycloneAlum wrote:

Runrincerepeat wrote:

I was there. That dude is an animal

Animal? His 5k/10k bests on athlinks are 15:44/33:41.

Pedestrian. I'm sure your marathon OTQ tops his PR.

Old Man Runner wrote:

Zero Summer wrote:

He doesn't look that sweaty, although I guess it is hard to tell. Was he sweating all over the place like I do on a treadmill?

So what you're saying is the pulled a Rossi?

Hahahaha, not at all. I am just surprised his shorts aren't falling down due to all the sweat. I sweat a good amount anyway, but put me on a treadmill in a 70 degree gym and I am a wet mess. I cannot imagine being on one for over 3 hours.

Serious question: What is the science regarding running on a treadmill, in regards to comparable difficulty to running on a road or track? It seems like since the treadmill is moving itself, it would be somewhat easier. Regardless, that is a heck of a record and some serious mental fortitude.

I find it hard to believe a 4:57 50 miler on a treadmill. What are his credentials in the marathon and real ultras?

Dude sub-6 pace for 5 hours is pretty damn impressive. Could Sage do better? Maybe. But he hasn't. Props.

Funner Runner wrote:

Serious question: What is the science regarding running on a treadmill, in regards to comparable difficulty to running on a road or track? It seems like since the treadmill is moving itself, it would be somewhat easier.

"It seems" is not the same as science. You are wrong sir.

Obviously, the real question: would an airplane take off?

Hard to Believe wrote:

I find it hard to believe a 4:57 50 miler on a treadmill. What are his credentials in the marathon and real ultras?

He has won 12 ultras according to ultrasignup. He has a 2:38 marathon per Athlinks.

per Competitor his PR is 2:22

http://running.competitor.com/2016/12/news/jacob-puzey-runs-world-record-50-miles-treadmill_159684

This guy ran a 50k in 3 hours recently training for this, he's the real dealio.

This result is completely meaningless without further details.

What was the elevation? Running at 0% or even 1% is really not a big deal. The treadmill offers no wind resistance and so it's MUCH easier to run at a given pace at 0% than it would be to run on a track. Even at 1%, you are still getting an edge that can amount to 5-8" per mile.

I know this because I used to train a lot on treadmills for my tempo runs and intervals when training for marathons. I could bang off 49' 10 milers at 0% and the same effort outside would have been closer to 50:30.

Also, keep in mind that all treadmills are not calibrated correctly, so you have "hard" treadmills and "easy" treadmills. For instance, the mile might actually be 1600m, or the pace could be wonky. An example is an hour run at 6:00 might cover 10.2 miles.

Assuming the treadmill is calibrated correctly (which would make sense for a record attempt), the difference compared to running on the ground is that there is no wind. I've seen calculators that show that an aiding wind of about 10 mph (6:00 pace) is like an assist of about 20 seconds per mile. That's consistent with my experience on my treadmill at least.

Treadmill belts runs over plates that have some springy energy return from flex of the plate or from bumpers, making them softer and springier than running on a road. They are probably comparable to a nice track in that respect, so I wouldn't say it's really aiding in that respect, since there are ultras run on tracks too.

Shimmy Mack wrote:

That's 5:57 pace, y'all.

This is what all you 19-minute 5k trolls are running for 3.1 miles.

Try it for 50

A 19:00 for 5K pace huh? Hardly--it's an 18:29 5K pace.

Boss, if you want to make a point at least get your facts straight!

La-di-dah wrote:

This result is completely meaningless without further details.

What was the elevation? Running at 0% or even 1% is really not a big deal. The treadmill offers no wind resistance and so it's MUCH easier to run at a given pace at 0% than it would be to run on a track. Even at 1%, you are still getting an edge that can amount to 5-8" per mile.

I know this because I used to train a lot on treadmills for my tempo runs and intervals when training for marathons. I could bang off 49' 10 milers at 0% and the same effort outside would have been closer to 50:30.

Also, keep in mind that all treadmills are not calibrated correctly, so you have "hard" treadmills and "easy" treadmills. For instance, the mile might actually be 1600m, or the pace could be wonky. An example is an hour run at 6:00 might cover 10.2 miles.

Any potential advantage is offset by the mind-numbing boredom. Running on a treadmill for 50 miles is mentally like being Andy Dufresne in the hole.

This isn't real life wrote:

Who the heck cares? If you're a distance runner, run the marathon. Get better at it and beat the Kenyans. Ohhhhhhh, you can't? You're tooooo slow??? Okay, go run longer... Ohhhh you can't beat other people at the 50k cause you're toooooo slow? Okay, go run longer. Ohhhhh you can't beat people at actual 50 milers with elevation??? Okay, go run flatter. Loser.

What have you ever one?

Oldguy1 wrote:

That's a heck of a good time. He should find a reasonable road course and go for the American Record. Klecker's record has been around for some time now. And I'll bet that 99.9% of LR critics of ultrarunners have never done

a 50 mile or 100k. Go put up even a sub 7 pace 50 miler. I'll guarantee you will remember the effort.

I've done that. Fewer Americans have done that than have run a sub-4 mile.

Have any done both?

The record is for RUNNING ON A TREADMILL. It has nothing to do with running on any other surface. Your time is compared to others who are also running on a treadmill.

There are NUMEROUS road running records. You can't beat one of those running on a track or a treadmill. There are also NUMEROUS track records that you can't beat running on a treadmill or on the roads. They are all SEPARATE.

When I go race on trails and go up and down 500 ft hills, I don't expect to run the same pace as I do on a flat road.