Dilllllll wrote:
Naturalized Americans are not Americans?
Who on this list is or was American by your definition?
John McCain
Ted Cruz
Madeleine Albright
Tammy Duckworth
Patrick Ewing
Barry Goldwater
Melania Trump
Alexander Hamilton
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Robert Wagner
Felix Frankfurter
Tim Duncan
Sergey Brin
Elon Musk
Mila Kunis
Jim Carey
Keanu Reeves
Natalie Portman
Steve Kerr
Hakeem Olajuwon
No one on that list competed for another country in the Olympics while a US citizen.
Bernard Lagat is the GOAT? obviously?
Ackley wrote:
letsrankpeople wrote:Virgin over Salazar for sure.
Seriously?
Seriously. Three olympic teams. 2 x world XC champion. A hair better than Salazar in world 10000m rankings.
letsrankpeople wrote:
Ackley wrote:Seriously?
Seriously. Three olympic teams. 2 x world XC champion. A hair better than Salazar in world 10000m rankings.
Salazar and Virgin were essentially contemporaries (3 year age difference) and Salazar was better at every distance event after he turned 22.
Ackley wrote:
letsrankpeople wrote:Seriously. Three olympic teams. 2 x world XC champion. A hair better than Salazar in world 10000m rankings.
Salazar and Virgin were essentially contemporaries (3 year age difference) and Salazar was better at every distance event after he turned 22.
TrackBot! Compare Craig Virgin vs. Alberto Salazar
Head-to-head record between Craig Virgin (left) and Alberto Salazar (right):
New York NY 1981-02-06: 5000 m: 13:38.30a (7) VS 13:22.6h (2)
Craig "DEVASTATED" Virgin total wins: 0
Alberto "MF" Salazar total wins: 1
I am a bot. Info:
TrackBot wrote:
Head-to-head record between Craig Virgin (left) and Alberto Salazar (right):
New York NY 1981-02-06: 5000 m: 13:38.30a (7) VS 13:22.6h (2)
Craig "DEVASTATED" Virgin total wins: 0
Alberto "MF" Salazar total wins: 1
I am a bot. Info:
http://habs.sdf.org/trackbot
They raced a lot more than that. Cross referencing the six races mentioned on both runner's Wikipedia pages, Salazar was 5-1 in those races (I am sure there are others):
1980 OT 10,000 - Virgin
1981 US 10,000 -- Salazar
1982 US XC Team Trials -- Salazar
1983 US XC Team Trials -- Salazar
1983 World XC -- Salazar
1983 US 10,000 -- Salazar
Salazar had better PRs at 5K, 10K and the Marathon (holding all three ARs). Salazar was ranked #1 in the World in the Marathon in 1981 and 1982.