Nsnsns wrote:
LetsRun - the only segment of the runner population I know that's conservative. I go to an athletic club or Whole Foods or to anywhere where people are interested In health/fitness, and its overwhelmingly educated open minded people
Seems to me that most hobby runners are more liberal than the demographic that they are otherwise in and most serious runners are more conservative than the demographic they are otherwise in.
This isn't about Trump's policy on tariffs or free trade. It's about everything else--his dishonesty, his galling ignorance and incuriosity, his sexual predation, his promise to resume torture and loosen libel laws and sue everyone who insults him. If a running shoe company doesn't care about that, if it is so single-mindedly focused on its bottom line that it disregards the unique threat to democracy posed by this obscenity of a human being, it deserves to go under--and I'm happy to help it do so.
rojo wrote:
My God this thread is scary. It shows you how stupid so many people are.
Here are the facts.
1) New Balance is the only American shoe company that still makes any of its product in the USA.
2) They are obviously against the TPP. Nike was obviously pushing for it as they make all of their stuff there and Nike hosted Obama to get him to support.
3) After the election was over, a spokesperson for New Balance said the following to Sara Germano of the WSJ:
"The Obama admin turned a deaf ear to us & frankly w/ Pres-Elect Trump we feel things are going to move in the right direction"
That doesn't mean that they endorsed trump. They are happy that he's opposed to the TPP. Then some idiot (Jake Wolf) at GQ has written an article saying they endorsed TRUMP.
http://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-new-balance-sneakersThe GQ writer thinks he's being clever by pointing out that New Balance was founded by British immigrant in 1908. So what? Trump isn't against immigration. Last time I checked, his wife is an immigrant. He's against illegal immigration. It amazes me that so many liberals think if you are against illegal immigration you are against immigration.
If any Americans are boycotting, they should be boycotting other US shoe companies that make all of their stuff overseas.
Actually, Rojo, Trump is against immigration. In particular, he is against the immigration of Muslims.
The joke is on us wrote:
Nsnsns wrote:LetsRun - the only segment of the runner population I know that's conservative. I go to an athletic club or Whole Foods or to anywhere where people are interested In health/fitness, and its overwhelmingly educated open minded people
Seems to me that most hobby runners are more liberal than the demographic that they are otherwise in and most serious runners are more conservative than the demographic they are otherwise in.
Actually in my experience, a comparatively high percentage of serious runners lean more Libertarian. I think this could be due to the individualist streak in many serious runners.
the facts have arrived wrote:
Actually, Rojo, Trump is against immigration. In particular, he is against the immigration of Muslims.
False. Trump is pro-immigration. His is anti ILLEGAL immigration and against the immigration of criminals, terrorists, and those dangerous to Americans and American culture. The facts show that both of these are real issues.
As one who lives in Colorado, I have learned a bit about the effects of immigration. House framers and carpenters have told me that Hispanic immigrants have driven them out of the market by under bidding jobs. The same is also true for landscaping, roofing, and other labor intensive industries.
I'm not making a judgement about whether this is good or bad. But to those who say immigrants just take jobs Americans don't want are ignorant on the issue.
The democratic party wants higher minimum wages, mandatory paid leave for illness and child bearing, and easier rules for overtime. Well, in my business, I'm competing with 50 cent an hour Chinese labor. It's not a even playing field. I don't know if Trump can turn this around. I rather doubt it. But I find CEOs like Tim Cook to be complete hypocrites. He wants all manner of environmental restrictions and employer mandates on U.S. companies while Apple has their products made in Chinese factories where nets are hung outside the building to prevent workers from committing suicide. Not to mention that the same factories burn high Sulphur coal and dump chemical waste anywhere they want.
But I guess writing apps is a clean process and it's easier to be holier than thou.
reading sucks wrote:
the facts have arrived wrote:Actually, Rojo, Trump is against immigration. In particular, he is against the immigration of Muslims.
False. Trump is pro-immigration. His is anti ILLEGAL immigration and against the immigration of criminals, terrorists, and those dangerous to Americans and American culture. The facts show that both of these are real issues.
You mean like that former model from Slovenia who was illegally working in the US while she was on a tourist visa?
Why did he marry her?
rojo wrote:
Trump isn't against immigration. Last time I checked, his wife is an immigrant. He's against illegal immigration. It amazes me that so many liberals think if you are against illegal immigration you are against immigration.
Oh, really?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-position-on-visasDonald J. Trump Position on Visas
"Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. I remain totally committed to eliminating rampant, widespread H-1B abuse and ending outrageous practices such as those that occurred at Disney in Florida when Americans were forced to train their foreign replacements. I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions."
So his wife should not have got her H1-B visa to work in the US? Is that why she was working with a tourist visa? And should she have been deported before she got her H1-B? I am just asking...
Not my usual HN wrote:
rojo wrote:Trump isn't against immigration. Last time I checked, his wife is an immigrant. He's against illegal immigration. It amazes me that so many liberals think if you are against illegal immigration you are against immigration.
Oh, really?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-position-on-visasDonald J. Trump Position on Visas
"Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. I remain totally committed to eliminating rampant, widespread H-1B abuse and ending outrageous practices such as those that occurred at Disney in Florida when Americans were forced to train their foreign replacements. I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions."
So his wife should not have got her H1-B visa to work in the US? Is that why she was working with a tourist visa? And should she have been deported before she got her H1-B? I am just asking...
It's almost like he says one thing to appeal to people and then acts in his own interest...
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/news/economy/trump-maralago/bladerunner wrote:
As one who lives in Colorado, I have learned a bit about the effects of immigration. House framers and carpenters have told me that Hispanic immigrants have driven them out of the market by under bidding jobs. The same is also true for landscaping, roofing, and other labor intensive industries.
I'm not making a judgement about whether this is good or bad. But to those who say immigrants just take jobs Americans don't want are ignorant on the issue.
The democratic party wants higher minimum wages, mandatory paid leave for illness and child bearing, and easier rules for overtime. Well, in my business, I'm competing with 50 cent an hour Chinese labor. It's not a even playing field. I don't know if Trump can turn this around. I rather doubt it. But I find CEOs like Tim Cook to be complete hypocrites. He wants all manner of environmental restrictions and employer mandates on U.S. companies while Apple has their products made in Chinese factories where nets are hung outside the building to prevent workers from committing suicide. Not to mention that the same factories burn high Sulphur coal and dump chemical waste anywhere they want.
But I guess writing apps is a clean process and it's easier to be holier than thou.
Great post. What field do you work in???
-Robert
PS. To the idiot who keeps starting other new balance threads, please stop. If you want to talk about Trump/New Balance, do it in this thread. We don't like multiple threads on the same subject particularly when it's not really running related.
Hey Rojo, I work as an int'l economist and Bloomberg, CNN int'l, CNBC are ripping into New Balance over this saying it is now the shoe brand of the alt-right, neo-Nazis. What is interesting is that yesterday I did a tough hilly loop circuit that famous runners (Olympic medalists) from yester-year would train on when in town. I did this circuit in a pair of Zantes for the first time and they are great shoes (except when it is wet on asphalt) but they are made in Vietnam so I don't get the kerfuffle.
Still more evidences that Trump is against LEGAL immigration.
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