In high school not necessarily. You can skip a math homework assignment and it won't have any big impact. But skipping sleep and then trying to run means you're going to get hurt and everything will suffer.
In high school not necessarily. You can skip a math homework assignment and it won't have any big impact. But skipping sleep and then trying to run means you're going to get hurt and everything will suffer.
No way. If you don't get enough sleep, you can't just grind. That's how you get hurt and break down. Sleep is of the utmost importance.
They are playing video games and texting their friends.
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gold counter wrote:1/10
The premise is great. You went over the top with the "should I quit coaching" and "I don't have their respect."
Kids don't get enough sleep but if they cut down on texting and youtube, they would be surprised how much time they have for homework.
He deserves better than that. I say at least 5/10 just based on the quantity of responses.
Although... "They have to do this to get into college...". LOL. I went to a directional state university, and some of the kids I went to class with were total morons. If you could fog up a window you got in.
Guys I really wish I was trolling here. These are real comments I get from my athletes and parents. One counselor told one of my athletes to bypass a full ride to a very good private university for the "prestige" of Rice University. (Is Rice that great? Ultimately they chose the scholarship). Another told one of my runners (4.8 GPA) to quit running because it was taking time away from school.
Another one of my runners, who did end up getting into Stanford, was getting less than three hours sleep a night. He scored 2590 on the SAT and retook it, on this perceived notion it wasn't good enough. He ended up having to get counseling for depression and suisidal thoughts.
The school is academic and these kids are highly stressed. They feel if they don't study this much they will miss out on an Ivy League, Stanford, etc.
I'm not going to quit coaching but there's days I feel like it. And we do a full training program and have success with it. But certainly there are days I feel like throwing in the towel.
I'm with you, no way should you be ip past 11 and trying to run 50+ mpw in XC season. And they aren't partying... We went to the beach after a race earlier this year for a BBQ lunch one of the parents set up and kids didn't want to go because they haves tests and projects.
No matter what I say, it just takes one friend getting into Stanford or an Ivy League two models these types of behaviors, and these kids think that it's the way they have to live their life. I tell them those kids aren't in cross country and trying to make the state meet putting all the stress physiologically on them. But it's to no avail.
Again not a troll. Just a concerned coach and parent who has no idea what to do.
Send them info about sleep deprivation's effects on learning, mental health, and brain development. If they're actually getting 5 hours of sleep a night, which I find hard to believe, they're making themselves significantly dumber and looking forward to a lifetime of poor health.
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He deserves better than that. I say at least 5/10 just based on the quantity of responses.
Although... "They have to do this to get into college...". LOL. I went to a directional state university, and some of the kids I went to class with were total morons. If you could fog up a window you got in.
Guys I really wish I was trolling here. These are real comments I get from my athletes and parents. One counselor told one of my athletes to bypass a full ride to a very good private university for the "prestige" of Rice University. (Is Rice that great? Ultimately they chose the scholarship). Another told one of my runners (4.8 GPA) to quit running because it was taking time away from school.
Another one of my runners, who did end up getting into Stanford, was getting less than three hours sleep a night. He scored 2590 on the SAT and retook it, on this perceived notion it wasn't good enough. He ended up having to get counseling for depression and suisidal thoughts.
The school is academic and these kids are highly stressed. They feel if they don't study this much they will miss out on an Ivy League, Stanford, etc.
I'm not going to quit coaching but there's days I feel like it. And we do a full training program and have success with it. But certainly there are days I feel like throwing in the towel.
I'm with you, no way should you be ip past 11 and trying to run 50+ mpw in XC season. And they aren't partying... We went to the beach after a race earlier this year for a BBQ lunch one of the parents set up and kids didn't want to go because they haves tests and projects.
No matter what I say, it just takes one friend getting into Stanford or an Ivy League two models these types of behaviors, and these kids think that it's the way they have to live their life. I tell them those kids aren't in cross country and trying to make the state meet putting all the stress physiologically on them. But it's to no avail.
Again not a troll. Just a concerned coach and parent who has no idea what to do.[/quote]
My advice to you would be to either decide to be grateful for what you have or to realize that there are a lot of schools out there that need an invested and knowledgable distance coach.
What is the family backgrounds of your student-athletes? Are they the children of immigrants, by any chance? It might be a cultural thing. If they're not texting their friends and gaming all night, they might be trying to live up to their parents' ideals of academic success. Or maybe they're trying to do both.