Shawn Barber got dinged with cocaine use, had hooker testify at his hearing

This incident with little Barber makes me appreciate Sam Kendricks and Renaud Lavillenie even more.

Next time little Barber is at a meet, let's all check out the Craiglist posts at whatever city he's in and try to guess which post(s) are his.

Glad he got it out for haramabe!

This is simple as it gets:

1 - For sure he was doing coke but likely was with a craigslist encounter.

2 - Who cares? As if doing coke while you're partying helped his competition. maybe psychologically it helped but absolutely has no physical benefits so who cares - he certainly should not be banned.

Also Rojo said he found it suspicious that Barber claimed to have been looking for a drug free encounter. To me that isn't suspicious at all. It is super common in all those craigslist personals to say "D & D" free (meaning drug and disease free)

My take. He is telling the truth about the encounter but likely snorted a little himself. He was having a bit of personal fun that should in no way affect his athletic career (but perhaps he should check himself as he is now a model for kids).

My question is, who is this guy Craig and what the heck kind of list is he keeping?

Nickname for Akron had always been Crackron. Fitting.

therealcanuck wrote:

This is simple as it gets:

1 - For sure he was doing coke but likely was with a craigslist encounter.

2 - Who cares? As if doing coke while you're partying helped his competition. maybe psychologically it helped but absolutely has no physical benefits so who cares - he certainly should not be banned.

Also Rojo said he found it suspicious that Barber claimed to have been looking for a drug free encounter. To me that isn't suspicious at all. It is super common in all those craigslist personals to say "D & D" free (meaning drug and disease free)

My take. He is telling the truth about the encounter but likely snorted a little himself. He was having a bit of personal fun that should in no way affect his athletic career (but perhaps he should check himself as he is now a model for kids).

I agree with everything you said.

I spoke with an ex co worker from my phama days and he said that it is possible that even a minimal amount of cocaine could be detected in the hair using chemical and gas ionization chromatography. But, since the hair contains hundreds of thousands of compounds, the detector would have be specifically looking for cocaine and that the test would very expensive...several thousand dollars. Even touching and/or breathing in certain chemicals can be detected even years after death. He also stated that your standard urinalysis would never detect the presence of cocaine introduced into the body through salvia (kissing). The salvia and stomach fluids would degrade the cocaine to a point where it would be barely detectable even using the most sophisticated equipment and processes.

TrackCoach wrote:

He also stated that your standard urinalysis would never detect the presence of cocaine introduced into the body through salvia (kissing). The salvia and stomach fluids would degrade the cocaine to a point where it would be barely detectable even using the most sophisticated equipment and processes.

But they don't use standard tests for anti-doping, they are using the most sophisticated tests, and the amount he tested positive for was trace amounts that would never show up on a standard test.

There's absolutely no way he would have tested positive at those extremely low levels if he had actually "done coke" the night before. The only other scenario would be if he had done something like McPherson, partied several days before.

I believe there is a lot of evidence missing from the final report. I don't know why they would exclude info about the hair sample, but I believe my source. I think it is reasonable to assume that they also got evidence of the Craigslist posting, hotel reservations, etc.

He probably broke a law or two, they may have worked something out that allowed the report to focus on the anti-doping aspects while basically turning a blind eye to possible criminal aspects. That's my guess...

If you check the Gasquet example, hair testing was used and shows the dates and approximate amounts of coke in the womans hair, and no coke in Gasquet's hair. Hair testing can be used now, is not expensive, and high levels in hair can suggest direct ingestion rather than occupational exposure etc.

polevaultpower wrote:

There's absolutely no way he would have tested positive at those extremely low levels if he had actually "done coke" the night before. The only other scenario would be if he had done something like McPherson, partied several days before.

Are you sure? I did some reading about metabolite concentrations following nasal intake and it seemed within normal amounts following him doing cocaine. I'll re-check the numbers tonight.

I laugh at anyone who says they don't like Barber because he did something bad and was caught. How does it actually affect them? These same perfectionist Canadian media ass-kissers probably love Andre de Grasse, who has admitted excessive past recreational drug use, and may be on PEDs. But he gets excused (as he should) BUT Barber gets the stiff talk from these idiots. Barber is probably ten times the person they are in reality, but they like to talk big and bring down people to feel better about their low lives. Grow up and out of your shallow, insignificant little bubbles.

isithalfpast5YET wrote:

I laugh at anyone who says they don't like Barber because he did something bad and was caught. How does it actually affect them? These same perfectionist Canadian media ass-kissers probably love Andre de Grasse, who has admitted excessive past recreational drug use, and may be on PEDs. But he gets excused (as he should) BUT Barber gets the stiff talk from these idiots. Barber is probably ten times the person they are in reality, but they like to talk big and bring down people to feel better about their low lives. Grow up and out of your shallow, insignificant little bubbles.

Why don't you.

CBC

"George Barber declined to comment via Levine.

He was sentenced in February 2007 to 36 months in prison after a jury in New Mexico convicted him on two counts of criminal sexual penetration by a school employee. The jury acquitted Barber, who was 45 at the time of his sentencing, of eight other sex charges and one count of bribery or intimidation of a witness.

The charges stemmed from George Barber's involvement with a 17-year-old girl in 2005, when he worked at Las Cruces (New Mexico) High School as a physical education teacher and track coach."

You can add barber to the list of guys who got their deck out for harambae.

This is perhaps the most ridiculous thing you'll read all day:

http://www.crdsc-sdrcc.ca/resource_centre/pdf/English/814_SDRCC%20DT%2016-0249.pdf

Highlights:

"Mr. Barber posted in the “casual encounter” section of Craigslist, an on-line service. He used a pseudonym. He specified in his post that he wanted to meet a woman who was drug-free and disease-free. He also indicated that he wanted a “professional” person. Mr. Barber testified that the purpose of his post was to “find a partner for the week or weekend” as “a way to relieve stress”."

"... he received a response from a man, referred to as M in this decision, who sent him a photograph of a woman, referred to as W in this decision. Mr. Barber found her to be attractive. She was described as a mother of two. He thought a mother would be “more cautious, reserved”.

so a friend of mine brought up a good point.... This is the same dude who just came out as gay? hmmm... something isn't adding up..

BMORESPICYBOIZ wrote:

so a friend of mine brought up a good point.... This is the same dude who just came out as gay? hmmm... something isn't adding up..

It didn't add up the second he said he kissed his prostitute. Who does that?

Escorts sell The Full Girl Friend Experience and charge more because it includes kissing.

It's true, plenty of hookers will kiss because guys want it and will pay extra for GFE. I used to monger before I got married and I know.

hookers don't kiss wrote:

Escorts sell The Full Girl Friend Experience and charge more because it includes kissing.