Ritz The Blitz wrote:
5) Joan Benoit, Chicago Marathon 1985 against Ingrid Kristiansen and Rosa Mota.
6) Mary Decker Slaney, 1985 mile world record.
these are significant but the article says by a male distance runner.
Ritz The Blitz wrote:
5) Joan Benoit, Chicago Marathon 1985 against Ingrid Kristiansen and Rosa Mota.
6) Mary Decker Slaney, 1985 mile world record.
these are significant but the article says by a male distance runner.
Mark great article. Keep running in the NYT.
bigredtrack800 wrote:
Editor's note: Please don't paste entire articles on the website. That's a copyright violation.
No, it isn't, at least not in the good old USA. It is called Fair Use:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtmlGreat stuff Bloom. My prediction is that Ritz and Torres will both have a major impact. We need our athletes getting exposure especially with the NCAA tournament on.
then again... wrote:
no offense to mark bloom, but i think the most signifcant victory by an american male distance runner in the past 2 decades was mark plaajates world champ gold in '93.
ritz won A cross country race, plaajates won a world championship.
if he want to argue that plaajates was not american born, then he should say so.
How did Mark plaajates fair at Footlocker or the NCAA's? It would be nice to have some history of how America's greatest did in his early years. I remember him losing several times in the LA marathon to some no names, but I don't seem to have any recollection of his college or high school achievements.
I would think Sydnee Maree's 1985 (still within 20 years) 1500m at Colonge (Koln, West Germany) World Record in the 1500m run in 3:29.66 would rank ahead of any male 1500-10,000m record listed above - he won the race.
Winning and setting World or National records should be the precedent.
What the hey, you could even add some this clown: Jim Spivey, 4:52.44 2000m American Record in Lausanne, Switzerland in 1987 - 3-4 other Natiional records were set in that race (Switzerland, Hungary, Ireland?)
vo2 - 85 today, 77 next year. It's just a number that was sustainable for that day. The key is, how to use that number now, to make 2005 a banner year. And, utilize that information next year when he is 77, and how to adjust his training.
js
Shayne Culpepper was bronze medalist at 3K in the World Indoor Championship.
Guys/Gals,
Does anyone really think that Ritz is going to get amongst the best guys in the world after one trip to Europe? A win in a (in the big scheme of things) small race in Belfast against African opposition that no-one ever heard of? They're African. And he beat them. Therefore, he's going to be top 10 at worlds. Come on! I think he'll learn a lesson, and I am delighted to see him do well but he's not ready yet. Let's stop with the hype. The guy is very good. No doubt. And one day, he could be great. BUT, he will get eaten alive by the top guys in that race. I'm not trying to be negative or anything. I believe he can be top 10 next year or whenever. But we have no basis for thinking he'll be top 10 this year.I'm just saying he needs more experience and more time. The guys he beat in Belfast are not the kind of guys he'll encounter at worlds. A top 20 finish would be great. Top 15 amazing. Top 10 I think is too much to ask. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Please don't write any programs for me Ace.
Ace Programmer wrote:
How did Mark plaajates fair at Footlocker or the NCAA's? It would be nice to have some history of how America's greatest did in his early years. I remember him losing several times in the LA marathon to some no names, but I don't seem to have any recollection of his college or high school achievements.
anyone know what edition it was in?
yes he will win.
K.B. isnt going to do well, everyone else will be afraid to pass him.
except ritz, hes tough, he will put a lead on everyone.
and win.
ummm, didn't ritz finish top 25 THREE YEARS AGO? i think he's a little better now...
.....and you don't suppose anybody else might be a little better now too???
letsrun disagrees with the statement that ritz's victory is the most significant american victory in 20 years. can they or anyone else please name a more significant victory?
Torres and Ritz will be top 5
Why over analyze the fine print with respect to the greatest distance running moments in the last 20 years.
Let's look at it this way...the NY Times has dedicated space to running where most newspapers continue to write about how many yards run, free-throw shots...the ordinary boring stuff.
Ritz is a proven competitor and I look forward to seeing how does this weekend.
jonblaze wrote:
letsrun disagrees with the statement that ritz's victory is the most significant american victory in 20 years. can they or anyone else please name a more significant victory?
good god, did you even read the previous posts?
mark plaajetes won the 1993 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP marathon gold
david krummenacker won the WORLD INDOOR CHAMPS 800m
joe falcon WON THE DREAM MILE
sydnee maree won in cologne, setting a WORLD RECORD of 3:29.66
jim spiver won in lausanne in '87, running 4:52.44
I agree at least they are covering running
Mark Plaatjes at Footlocker and ncaa?
Mark went to hs in South Africa and college at Georgia. Don't believe he had any significant ncaa placings, as he barely placed in SEC meets. Around 29:00 10k in college.
The marathon was definitely his race.
Jim Spivey wrote:
I would think Sydnee Maree's 1985 (still within 20 years) 1500m at Colonge (Koln, West Germany) World Record in the 1500m run in 3:29.66 would rank ahead of any male 1500-10,000m record listed above - he won the race.
Winning and setting World or National records should be the precedent.
What the hey, you could even add some this clown: Jim Spivey, 4:52.44 2000m American Record in Lausanne, Switzerland in 1987 - 3-4 other Natiional records were set in that race (Switzerland, Hungary, Ireland?)
vo2 - 85 today, 77 next year. It's just a number that was sustainable for that day. The key is, how to use that number now, to make 2005 a banner year. And, utilize that information next year when he is 77, and how to adjust his training.
js
Jim S:
Marius Bakken wrote recently that you had devised a pool running plan when you were injured that allowed you to run a 3:57 mile a short time after getting out of the pool.
I do not plan on getting injured, but if you have time would you be willing to provide this program?