The sicker I get, the more I realIze that most doctors are charlatans

Buyers beware.

Doctors are putting vaccinations in bananas!

http://www.organichawaii.org/shocking-gmo-vaccine-bananas-will-vaccinate-people/?v=7516fd43adaa

The real reason doctors can't solve problems as well as you might think is because they treat patients from a lawyer's perspective, which they do quite well.

First, doctors are smart. Medical school admission is very much restricted in this country. You have to have good test scores. Second, medical school is rigorous, famously rigorous. Third, doctors cannot cure a lot of ailments and are not trained to handle runners' injuries for the most part, so when we (rarely) see them, they give us bad advice that we need surgery or to stop running rather than exercises. So, we distrust them in an area they lack basic competence unless they are runners themselves. Fourth, doctors do not generally get to spend a lot of time with patients, visit their houses, and so really get to know what basic lifestyle issues may be affecting their health. Fifth, many ailments have common symptoms, so that they could go through one hundred possible diseases or triggers to get to the right one. Sixth, asthma and other common problems are basically descriptors of reactions, not some very well treatable diseases. You have breathing problems under certain circumstances. So, again, doctors often lack the ability to treat the symptoms in anything other than a short-term manner that does nothing about the underlying condition. But that is not because they are charlatans. In cases of diseases that have identifiable cures, they do really well.

If you knew anything about mold you would know that 90% of the time you cannot see it, it's under some wood for example. Of course I would have connected that to my illness if I had seen it on the wall. Also I had no idea you could get that sick from mold, but I thought a dr should know that, at least tell me about the possibility since nothing else was found in all those visits.

Lol at lecturing people for not knowing about mold.

Did you see the 10% and seriously not even try to deal with it? That is disgusting.

Is he supposed to tell you about EVERYTHING that can make you sick?

More proof that MDs just retard the process of natural selection.

This is the same thread that comes up every several months...here are the inevitable conclusions

As with any profession, there are good and bad doctors...in this era of increasing subspecialization, a good primary doctor is hard to find.

There are many medical conditions, both real (advanced cancer) and possibly fake (fibromyalgia) that doctors cannot help you much with.

Morbid obesity and unhealthy living will lead to chronic disease and premature death...doctors can't do anything about this unless patients are motivated.

There are also many diseases that would kill people if not for modern medicine and good doctors. There is no denying that modern cardiology, chemotherapy, intensive care, and organ transplantation have saved millions of lives.

A Hunk wrote:

I agree that physicians are typically intelligent and dedicated. Further, we can thank them them in part for eradicating, in this country, most of the diseases that have historically been life-ending/debilitating scourges..

I would instead thank more science and technology for the eradication of the awful life-ending/debilitating scourges.

I would also blame science for not getting the to bottom of the more complex diseases that we are confronted with. The profession has now become more of a rat race to gain publications rather than actually finding solutions to the healthcare problems we face.

I think physicians/medicine in emergency situations is the best thing we have and I am very grateful for that. Outside of emergency situations it is a bit of crap shoot as to whether you get good health care.

Mold wrote:

Of course I would have connected that to my illness if I had seen it on the wall. Also I had no idea you could get that sick from mold.

kek

You are voting for The Donald, no doubt

The science and technology you speak of is/was in many cases the result of research by physicians....hard not to give them any credit...e.g. Organ transplants

jjjjj wrote:

Third, doctors cannot cure a lot of ailments and are not trained to handle runners' injuries for the most part, so when we (rarely) see them, they give us bad advice that we need surgery or to stop running rather than exercises.

That is understandable but I think resentment comes in when you have had to pay a big fat medical bill to someone who did not know how to deal with your health problem. I am not sure that there are many other expert professions that get away with being paid for something about which they have no clue to deal with.

Society is an insane asylum wrote:

I'm not saying that I believe in any form of alternative medicine, but the unfortunate reality is that most doctors do not have the skills they are supposed to have. To the point that I am no longer willing to see one or take the advice one because I assume most doctors are going to misdiagnose my condition and precribe a treatment that will be unhelpful and harmful and that the harms will not be disclosed and I'll have to find out about them the hard wa. all the schooling they do is a farce. It matters nothing how long you stay in school if you don't have the intelligence to be good at something, the information taught in school is wrong, or your only motivaton is to impress others and optic don't have any actual interest in the field.

Could not agree more with this.

After our son was born, my wife got a blood clot in her lung and was placed on blood thinners. That was the correct protocol. Then she kept bleeding more than normal from down under due to being on the blood thinners. It was a lot of blood and was causing frequent transfusions. We were looking for solutions. Gynecologist suggested doing a D and C. My wife and I were both in a state of desperation and not thinking clearly due to her losing blood (and being hospitalized) and me getting no sleep as the only caretaker of our son. The doctor did the procedure and kept digging for retained placenta that was not present. Left my wife so scarred in her uterus we can not conceive another child. Caused intense grief for my wife and I and pain for 3 days every month. Turns out the bleeding was all normal due to blood thinners and should have been allowed to taper off.

Never trust a physicians advice without doing your due diligence first. I questioned the procedure at the time as being too aggressive, but I wasn't in my right mind under the circumstances. Never trust someone who doesn't have to live with the outcome, especially when the effects are potentially irreversible.

I have since lost all trust in the medical community. I know, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater..., but obviously I am still angry about our loss.

I noticed the same thing when I got seriously ill, that most doctors are fairly incompetent. I thought they'd be flawless and improvising, yet most are just effective bullshtters. I know more about my problem than most of them by researching for one minute.

Good times are killing me wrote:

Sounds like you have a wicked case of vaginitis.

I thought a Charlatan meant a resident of Charlotte, which is in the news a lot lately, but I don't know why.

Intelligent, informed, well thought out post that nails it.

Good luck getting through to the chimps posting here about "corrupt doctors" and cleansing enemas to prevent appendicitis.

Trolling genius. You had no idea you could get sick from MOLD? And DOCTORS are the dumb ones? My three year old chihuahua could tell you mold can make you sick.

Mold wrote:

If you knew anything about mold you would know that 90% of the time you cannot see it, it's under some wood for example. Of course I would have connected that to my illness if I had seen it on the wall. Also I had no idea you could get that sick from mold, but I thought a dr should know that, at least tell me about the possibility since nothing else was found in all those visits.

You had no idea you could get sick from mold? How old are you, son?

Did your mom buy a dehumidifier yet?

If you don't believe doctors can help, stop going to them and fix your goddam self. Is that so hard?

The process of getting into med school in the US is much more about building your transcript/resume than it is about actually learning about biochem, physics, etc. MCAT is an easy test as far as graduate level tests are concerned. Most of the students I knew that went onto med school simply put in the extra effort to find the easiest ways to fulfill their requirements. They went out of their way to join the right fraternities or organizations that had their own test banks to gain an edge in class. With the exception of a very small minority of truly talented individuals most doctors were just the kids that most effectively gamed the system. Add to that the fact that if you are an approved minority or a woman the standards for admission to med school are remarkably lower. You'd be surprised how stupid some med students really are.