Nothing better wrote:
Bernard Lagat represented Kenya in the 2000 and 2004 Olympics.
So? Irrelevant to this discussion. He switched countries once and never tried to switch back.
Nothing better wrote:
Bernard Lagat represented Kenya in the 2000 and 2004 Olympics.
So? Irrelevant to this discussion. He switched countries once and never tried to switch back.
Why does anybody think Pappas or Torrence want to switch back to the US? Everything they've said in interviews seems like they want to continue this for the rest of their career.
Can someone head down to Malibu and over to Pepperdine and ask David Torrence whether or not he intends to cash up in any US Champs? Hurry before the 16th best 5k runner in the world leaves town on his Alpaca!
are you drunk??
Esther Way wrote:
David Torrence is longer a viable Torrence in the USA. Scott, his father, served in this land and this is this reason David also may claim Japanese citizenship. As it lies, Daveed has chosen his path and oath. He will never run for the US again.
Tantamount to traitor.
DIIIOOOOOCCKKKKK!
IAAF Nation wrote:
Half right wrote:Now that they have made the decision to represent Greece and Peru will they remain true to those countries or will they manipulate the system and take US monies that are designated for US athletes?
Are all you Generation Snowflakes so limited in your computer skills that you are unable to find and read the IAAF rules?
I think you want IAAF Rule 5.4(e). Allow me to summarize it for you. For plastic traitors like Torrence and Pappas, once they've competed for their phony country, then it's real hard to switch back, intentionally so. Seb Coe wants to make it even harder to switch back, and I've got his back on that.
The nominal wait time to switch back to USA for these 2 dweebs would be 3 years, but that can easily be reduced to 12 months, which would still keep them out of the 2017 USATF meets. But it could be totally waived in "exceptional cases," which I take to mean that you have to bribe someone, or maybe if you're unable to continue to represent Blagonia or wherever because the country no longer exists, or that they would boil you and eat you if you went back.
5.4(e) Dual Citizenship: if an athlete holds Citizenship of two (or more) Countries (or territories), he may represent the Member of either (or any) of them, as he may elect. However, having once represented his elected Member in an international Competition under Rules 1.1(a), (b), (c), (f) or (g), he shall not represent another Member of which he is a Citizen for a period of three years from the date that he last represented the first elected Member. this period may be reduced or cancelled as set out below:
(i) the period may be reduced to 12 months with the agreement of the Members concerned. the reduction shall be effective upon receipt by the iAAF Office of a written notification of the Members’ agreement;
(ii) the period may be reduced or cancelled in exceptional cases by the Council. An application for a reduction or cancellation must be submitted by the relevant Member in writing to the iAAF Office at least 30 days before the international Competition in question.
The application of Rule 5.4(e) is limited to athletes who were born with dual citizenship. An athlete who holds Citizenship of two or more Countries (or territories) by virtue of the fact that he has acquired a new Citizenship (for example, through marriage) without relinquishing his Citizenship of birth is subject to the provisions of Rule 5.4(d).
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Nothing better wrote:
Bernard Lagat represented Kenya in the 2000 and 2004 Olympics.
And he wasn't a Kenyan citizen in 2004, only an American one.
I wouldn't be upset if he were forced to stick with Kenya.
Half right wrote:
Now that they have made the decision to represent Greece and Peru will they remain true to those countries or will they manipulate the system and take US monies that are designated for US athletes?
Hopefully. They should not be welcomed by the fans if they try. They voted with their feet against the USA for their own personal gain so the USA should not support them.
Mercenary Alert wrote:
Half right wrote:Now that they have made the decision to represent Greece and Peru will they remain true to those countries or will they manipulate the system and take US monies that are designated for US athletes?
Hopefully. They should not be welcomed by the fans if they try. They voted with their feet against the USA for their own personal gain so the USA should not support them.
Yeah! Let her keep on eatin' Greek yogurt, which isn't really Greek, but is made in Twin Falls, Idaho by a company owned by a Kurdish Turk that employs refugees from Sudan, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, etc., who were resettled in Twin Falls through a State Dept./UN program, encouraged by the company owner, and who have created a crime wave.
Let him stake his new citizenship on a pan pipe flute and a chullo hat.
If I ate pizza, could I run for Italy?
Mercenary Alert wrote:
Half right wrote:Now that they have made the decision to represent Greece and Peru will they remain true to those countries or will they manipulate the system and take US monies that are designated for US athletes?
Hopefully. They should not be welcomed by the fans if they try. They voted with their feet against the USA for their own personal gain so the USA should not support them.
At least Torrence is inspiring millions of Peruvian kids to run their dream.
Diego Estrada.
Do I have to spell it out? Mexican Olympian in 2012, back at US championships, and winning titles since then.
No issue in the rules, and certainly no huffing and puffing from letsrun.
They can compete as long as they remain citizens
Diego Estrada wrote:
Diego Estrada.
Do I have to spell it out? Mexican Olympian in 2012, back at US championships, and winning titles since then.
No issue in the rules, and certainly no huffing and puffing from letsrun.
Whattdyamean, "back" at US championships? He competed for Mexico at London 2012, although as it turned out he could have gone to the 2012 USA Trials as he became a citizen in late 2011.
After competing for Mexico in 2012, he was not eligib le to compete for the USA until May 2014. So there's no "back at US championships" or switching back issue with Estrada. This thread is (or was) about people switching back, not people simply switching.
Pappas and Torrance took the easy/back door into the Olympics and once Trump is president maybe he will kick them out for being traitors to the country that provided them an education and coaching that made them into good runners. Ungrateful cowards!
Non-USA that competed at US Olympic trials
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