Umm-they did win their 1st ever Big 10 Men's Track and Field Championship this past spring . I think the coaches are doing very well. Counting all 6 sports with a combined staff and it's easily the best all around program in the Big 10. The coaches have high standards and make life difficult for those athletes who do not buy in which results in athletes quitting .
B1G Champions wrote:
They ran well in June at NCAA's. As well in August, ya know-at the World Championships?
"They" is one guy.
Is Beth update?
noticer of this wrote:
Actual PA guy wrote:They actually recruit very well. It's just the development that is sub-par.
I'm talking specifically about local kids (like Cather) with that comment. They don't really look at the local 1:52-1:53 types and bring them in and try to develop them. If Harry had used the same approach, he wouldn't have had a WR 4X800 team, as two of those four kids were local guys who had run 1:52 and 1:54 in high school.
Times have changed...no P5 school is going to bother pursuing a 1:53 kid...why should Penn State? And no, Josh Hoey isn't considering Penn State.
Shadow Lurker wrote:
noticer of this wrote:I'm talking specifically about local kids (like Cather) with that comment. They don't really look at the local 1:52-1:53 types and bring them in and try to develop them. If Harry had used the same approach, he wouldn't have had a WR 4X800 team, as two of those four kids were local guys who had run 1:52 and 1:54 in high school.
Times have changed...no P5 school is going to bother pursuing a 1:53 kid...why should Penn State? And no, Josh Hoey isn't considering Penn State.
Not saying they should go after such kids with all their recruiting resources, but locals should be gimmes when it comes to bringing in walk-ons to round out the team. PSU is taking 1:54+ walk-ons while faster kids leave town.
The football team seems to do a fine job with this. A kid like Jordan Norwood wouldn't have been a big time recruit anywhere, but PSU football figured it would be worth giving the kid a roster spot, and now he's been in the NFL for years.
OptionalUnlessRegistered wrote:
This thread is a cesspool. Why the moderators let these types of posts stay is beyond me. I am guessing almost every post is from a few IPs.
So we're not allowed to be critical of D1 programs, especially one that has the ability and reputation to be a top XC team in the nation, or at least in the area.
So far we've seen schools like Dartmouth, Lehigh, and Pitt out-recruit PSU, at least regarding PA talent recently (this past year). On top of that, they can't retain the kids they have already (Slag, Hoey, Tubby). If it wasn't for their assistant coach actually knowing how to train distance runners, PSU could've been the same caliber as Shippensburg (not likely but it was a possibility).
I wonder when the PSU AD is going to wake up and realize they can compete with Cuse, Stanford, Colorado, and NAU with their funding and facilities.
You can be critical, but the child rape comments that have since been deleted were inappropriate.
Their scholarship money has to be divided up between sprinters, jumpers, and throwers. Leaving less for distance guys.
OptionalUnlessRegistered wrote:
You can be critical, but the child rape comments that have since been deleted were inappropriate.
I know, I still can't believe what Joepa did to those kids.
scholarship money has to also be divided up to Sandusky victims
OptionalUnlessRegistered wrote:
You can be critical, but the child rape comments that have since been deleted were inappropriate.
Wrong. As long as Penn State student athletes aren't condemning Paterno for what he allowed to happened, the child rape comments are appropriate.
I'm sure they were joking as well. There is no such thing as an innapropriate joke. That's why it's a joke. Therefore no harm no foul
Louis Free wrote:
OptionalUnlessRegistered wrote:You can be critical, but the child rape comments that have since been deleted were inappropriate.
Wrong. As long as Penn State student athletes aren't condemning Paterno for what he allowed to happened, the child rape comments are appropriate.
They don't condemn him because they don't think about him at all. Normal people don't continue to dwell on mistakes that were made before they were born by a guy who died when they were in middle school or high school.
Gondak is still the coach and the girls have been subpar for a while now. They only finished 10th at Big Ten with a YOUNG team. Isn't it concerning when you only have two seniors and they are both slower than they were a couple of years ago.
The boys aren't much better I suppose.
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ProspectiveNittanyLion wrote:
If you guys had to guess, will Gondak still be head coach in 2020?
I'll take it one step further. I bet he will still be the coach in 2021