Are the IAAF F*king serious? (re: drug cheat Genzebe Dibaba)

Les wrote:

Dibaba runs for NIke.

Except that the IAAF is sponsored by Adidas . . .

This is pretty disappointing considering she revived Ethiopian running at least for the women

Your self-righteousness offends me.

Reality Bath wrote:

As long as Nike's checks keep cashing...

Please shut up; there are better ways to exercise your lips besides talking.

Come the hell on wrote:

Dude, relax, it's literally all fun and games.

I'm sure she is voting for Killary!!!! Nuff said.....

TravelMuch? wrote:

Actually, YOU need to get a clue. I travel all over the world--usually at least one foreign country a month. You have to bribe cops in many third-world or even some more advanced countries because they don't earn diddly-squat. The only reason more cops here in the U.S. aren't taking bribes every day is because they make enough money to support their families.

So in wealthier countries where people are paid a living wage, there is less corruption. Glad we all agree here!

I see thread after thread just like this one at LR. All I can really add is, this game has been going on for 48 years. That's right, 48 -- since the Mexico City and Grenoble Olympics when the IOC instituted drug testing.

Change a few of the names, and this thread could have been posted almost any time throughout that period. Frank Shorter wants to know, why isn't he credited with a gold medal for the 1976 Olympic marathon rather than silver, after finishing second to an East German doper? Good question.

Time to give up on this war against drugs on the professional level. Though who own and run pro sports don't support it. Test for testosterone level, red blood cell count, and safe levels of anything that is known to be potentially hazardous. Get the cooperation of the doctors administering drugs to athletes, rather than prosecuting them, so we can know exactly what they are doing and have the benefit of their knowledge, and focus research on athlete safety.

Devil Dog wrote:

You know what the problem is? There's not more people like you and me that want her stripped of her records and medals and given a lifetime ban. She's a cheat. She was caught. She doesn't need to fail a test for the IAAF to issue a ban. She should be a forgotten name.

So you want to ban drug cheats without even any testing at all... Just ban anybody you don't like, I guess. Tyrant, ascend your throne. Corruption will only increase.

What's your problem?

She's never tested positive, and no legit proof has came out that she has taken any drugs, so why can't she be innocent until proven guilty?

And the toe injury did disrupt her outdoor season, I don't think the season would have been any different whether the bust happened or not

Her first race back in that 5k she had to drop out at 3k because she was still dealing with an injury, last time I checked a hotel raid has nothing to do with an injury status, so what about the hotel raid actually disrupted her season?

IAAF has no obligation to mentioned the raid

There are still doing investigation, so they can't ban all of Aden's athletes until the investigation is complete, you know why, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, so maybe they are guilty, and his athletes will serve a ban and get their medals stripped, but it's a lot better than being innocent and being deprived the opportunity of competing in the Olympics when you did nothing wrong

If she gets to compete in the Olympics... Nothing you can do folks. Although the second amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know.

OP is right on, how they couldnt get enough evidence to ban her is beyond my comprehension.

Yeah but hold on just a second - cool the jets everyone. A little over 12 months ago basically every jack-off on these boards were doe-eyed smitten with the graceful Ethiopian beauty that had finally banished the disgustingly corrupt Qu Yunxia out of the record books (this despite Yunxia having never failed a drugs test).

So everyone was happy then to turn a blind eye to a performance that not only smashed that of a (presumed with good reason) cheater, but was a jump of 5 seconds off her previous lifetime best (before the season started) and markedly faster than any "woman" had ever managed during the halcyon days of steroid abuse in "women's" athletics...

So yeah the IAAF are serious - just like 99% of you all were little more 12 months ago.

https://twitter.com/ryanflotrack/status/622128427986874368

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6634171

Complete and utter bunch of clowns.

You are forgetting that "guilty" is short for guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Was every single Russian athlete proven guilty of doping right down to their teenagers who were banned from World Junior and European Youth champs?

No, but they were banned because there was enough information to conclude that most Russian athletes were more likely doped than not, and the fairest solution would be to ban all of them, even at the expense of the clean ones.

In the same way I think it's more than fair to suspend Aden's athletes indefinitely, allowing them to compete only in smaller, unpaid races (which is pretty much what they have been doing all of this outdoor season anyway) until the investigation is complete, even without "proof" that every individual athlete from the group has doped. Remember that this was not just some random police visit that resulted in a couple of syringes being found in a dumpster outside Aden's hotel, this was supposedly the result of a 3 year investigation during which the IAAF collected enough dirt on Aden to justify having police raid his and his athletes' hotel rooms, and then celebrate, and claim credit for, his arrest (https://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/statement-jama-aden-arrest).

So no, the IAAF has no obligation to mention the raid in their event preview but that in itself isn't the problem. The problem is that ever since Aden's arrest, the IAAF have been doing their absolute best to act like nothing ever happened. At the very least, there should have been an update on the situation by now and an explanation of how and why they came to the ridiculous conclusion of allowing Aden's athletes to compete at the Olympics.

P.S. - What kind of "injury" has athletes wheeled off the track in tears one week, and running 3:59 the next week?

kikKomen Soi sauce wrote:

If she gets to compete in the Olympics... Nothing you can do folks. Although the second amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know.

Haha, good post

Its fair for the public conclude that Aden had lots of EPO for his athletes. His account does not sound believable. All of the regulatory bodies have failed the sport to some extent and this particular situation looks really bad. The only way this goes away is if the initial news report was totally wrong. That seems unlikely. There was a lot of EPO there but they did not have bad test results. I think it says more about the limits of the testing system than anything else. I will not be cheering for any Aden athletes.by the way, ARD also has Kenyan officials on tape requesting bribe. And it is ironic that 'NOP skeptic'wrote that response. The Aden situation has far more evidence than anything about NOP.There probably have been a good number of cheats as there are in other countries. I just hope that more Ethiopian and Kenyan athletes are clean than not.

Why does professional sports need testing. They could just ask you arses what you thought and who should be banned. Take a lrc consensus and that is the verdict.

TrackCoach wrote:

One of the IAAF's duties is promotions, no organization is going to promote the negative. What else would expect the IAAF to state? And, in terms of the Aden situation, what can the IAAF legally do stop any of Aden's athletes from competing when were not caught with the drugs in their possession and tested clean? - This is not defending the IAAF because I am as pissed as you are, but IK don't let my emotions stand in the way of logic.

Thank you - this kind of wisdom is rare but gem. Doping is bad for the sport, but what more young athletes need to understand is that sour grapes (no matter what the reason) is bad for their both personal brand and the collective brand of the sport.

slowly giving up wrote:

I just hope that more ... athletes are clean than not.

That's pretty much how I think, because "slowly giving up" sums up my mindset at this point.

My favorite athlete [Kenenisa Bekele] isn't in the Olympics due to some kind of bureaucratic f-up.

Some of my other favorite athletes (Leo Manzano, Ben True) didn't make it this time around, either.

In order to watch some of my other favorite athletes (Jenny Simpson, Shannon Rowbury, Brenda Martinez) I'm forced to watch the comedy of errors that now is Genzebe Dibaba.

So now I get to decide between watching 3 men beat up on 5 women [800m final] or Molly Huddle run an American record while getting trampled by 5 (6?) women who are befuddlingly better.

#Sad.

Aside from my undying respect & love for Kenenisa, I need American athletes to inspire me. Maybe I'm the only one, but I actually do think about these guys & gals on every one of my runs. But so many of them are getting murdered (figuratively) out there that I see myself letting go.