Olympic Sprinter training for a mile

We need to come up with a weekly template from now until you want to run a mile.

Joel Przybilla wrote:

We need to come up with a weekly template from now until you want to run a mile.

Yes. I am running either 2 miles continuous or slow repeats today300/100walk or 6-8x400.

You should do 6 x 400 comfortably hard with full recovery, easy 2 miles tomorrow.

I never said lifting was bad. But some of the lifting you listed makes no sense for the mile. Most of the lifting you listed makes no sense for a slow* miler. Lifting makes a difference at the top end of the sport, but not at the lower end. If you want to lift because you enjoy it, more power to you, just don't fool yourself into thinking the lifting you mentioned is making a difference in your mile training. If you lacked a basic level of functional strength, it would help, but I suspect that isn't an issue for you.

I do consider myself fairly educated on training, I have taken a few athletes I coach to USATF/trials, so consider myself at least a decent coach. Of course there are plenty of coaches at my level who do lack basic understanding, but I've always taken the approach of wanting to learn as much as I can about the "why" of training, not just the "how."

I disagree that a sprinter who ran 10.3 but now wants to train for the mile should train differently than a sprinter who ran 10.8 but now wants to train for the mile. Knowing only those two data points about them, I would train them the same. As the respond to training, I may find differences between them and tailor the training a bit, but I would expect those differences to be independent of their raw sprint ability.

This board does have ups and downs, but I would encourage you to post back with your progress. I think it is great that you're finding enjoyment out of pursuing fitness and a goal. You certainly have me interested in hearing how it goes for you.

*note: I didn't mean "slow" as an insult, I find value in the sport at all levels.

Current height/weight info might help the armchair coaches.

Every multi guy I've ever met has a list of best performance one&offs from either specific event meet performances or from training sessions.

what was your best one&off 1500.

Gradually start reducing your rest between 400s and build up to 10 or 12 repeats. You could start with 200 jog and go down to 100 jog between, and you could start with sets and later just do them all with the same jog. You will want to run repeat 600s and 800s as well. The 400s can be at mile pace without being at all strenuous to your hamstring, but aerobically if they are also easy with short rests, then you can do more 800s at that pace and pick up the 400s to, say, 80-85. Of course, you may not want to do too many slow repetitions if you are going for the 200/400m master's records. At least you will gain some 'strength'. To build that endurance without hurting your knees, you might consider pool running in the deep end, with or without a vest.

USATF trials wow pretty good. Have you studied ttrack topics academically, if you have hands on exp. with some physio and kinesiology courses/cert, it could be interesting. But as you mentioned there are alot of "top" coaches that lack basic understanding and get the athletes their on their talent and drugs. Your explanation of lifting makes more sense now and I basically agree.

We can agree to disagree. The 10.3 and 10.8 will of course have different responses. The speed difference is too large. They need to be trained different from the beginning, even some of the general principles will have modifying.

Update so I ran a brutal 6:20 first lap 130 last lap 145.

6:20? How?

Bolt can break 5 easy with no training.

You like running. They like thinking that they are detectives. You have your fun, and let them have theirs.

Rooting for ya :-)

trolltroltrol wrote:

6:20? How?

Bolt can break 5 easy with no training.

How? Split times 130-302 435 620 I didnt get accurate splits because i just looked down as I crossed. I did finish is 620

Good for him. When I was his age and running I broke 5 easy no training. I think most if not all world class sprinters can break 5.

WiT wrote:

Current height/weight info might help the armchair coaches.

Every multi guy I've ever met has a list of best performance one&offs from either specific event meet performances or from training sessions.

what was your best one&off 1500.

current 5'9 188-190

1500- I have several low 4s 4;02 4;03 4:05 mile 4;18 I could never break 4 in the 1500. But I never really trained for it.

Olympic Truth wrote:

WiT wrote:

Current height/weight info might help the armchair coaches.

Every multi guy I've ever met has a list of best performance one&offs from either specific event meet performances or from training sessions.

what was your best one&off 1500.

current 5'9 188-190

1500- I have several low 4s 4;02 4;03 4:05 mile 4;18 I could never break 4 in the 1500. But I never really trained for it.

BS

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you're trolling wrote:

Olympic Truth wrote:

current 5'9 188-190

1500- I have several low 4s 4;02 4;03 4:05 mile 4;18 I could never break 4 in the 1500. But I never really trained for it.

BS

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these are slow i mean really slow times. None of them are even hard. 50 guys on this board can run this. SO???

Olympic Truth wrote:

you're trolling wrote:

BS

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these are slow i mean really slow times. None of them are even hard. 50 guys on this board can run this. SO???

Perhaps if you were actually a former olympic level decathlete, you would realize that having "several low 4" 1500s would narrow it down to only a few decathletes in history.

Combined with your claim that you ran 10.45 in the 100m, there isn't an athlete in the world that matches your claimed profile. Only a handful of world-class decathletes have run that fast in the 100m and 1500, and none of them were in the 2000 or 2004 olympics.

I understand you got upset about people trying to figure out who you are, but that stems from the fact that you claimed credentials that would so rare as to point to only a few athletes. Add in that you claimed to be in one of two specific Olympics, and it becomes clear that you are lying.

The part that makes it so bizarre is that your "former sprinter trying to run a mile" thread could have been a decent thread without your strange desire to be heralded as a former badass decathlete who wishes to remain anonymous.

Can't wait to see how this develops....

Olympic Truth.

Or, Olympic Lies.