Holy Crap!
Holy Crap!
The situation in Turkey is going to deteriorate slowly but steadily from here going forward. It is sad for the many innocent Turks, most of whom would prefer to have a more tolerant and less authoritarian government.
Putin's revenge.
Wrussia wrote:
Putin's revenge.
It could be any one of a number of organizations, from Russia's FSB to PKO to ISIL to Erdogan's own security services, engaging in some sort of calumny to bring greater disrepute to his enemies. Erdogan's approach to conflict is to send fire engines with gasoline in their pumps.
28 dead, 60 injured. Obama hasn't done a thing.
ISIL done did it.
Screw Obama wrote:
28 dead, 60 injured. Obama hasn't done a thing.
What the hell do you think he should do? When he wanted to bomb ISIL a couple of years ago the Republicans blocked him. Turkey is a sovereign state. There is very little he can do other than make overtures of support. Besides which--Turkey has been fcking around with its southern neighbor for decades, and has its own far worse rivalry for power going on than the stake we have in that situation. The US has pretty did it's part in 2003 by lighting a fire in Iraq that is now spreading. Not much we can do now.
Fentrekker wrote:
Screw Obama wrote:28 dead, 60 injured. Obama hasn't done a thing.
What the hell do you think he should do? When he wanted to bomb ISIL a couple of years ago the Republicans blocked him. Turkey is a sovereign state.
No Turkey is not. Turkey is NOT A SOVEREIGN STATE. Turkey is a puppet state of the US Obama Administration.
We know wrote:
Fentrekker wrote:What the hell do you think he should do? When he wanted to bomb ISIL a couple of years ago the Republicans blocked him. Turkey is a sovereign state.
No Turkey is not. Turkey is NOT A SOVEREIGN STATE. Turkey is a puppet state of the US Obama Administration.
It probably feels good to make such simplistic statements, but it bears little relationship to reality. South Vietnam was VASTLY more a "puppet state" to us in the 1960s, and yet we could not make them behave in a civilized or even self-enlightened manner. Erdogan and his thugs are a "client" state of the US, but that is a very long way from being under our thumb the way your simplistic argument would have it. I doubt you even really believe what you say. I can only imagine you just need to let off some steam.
Screw Obama wrote:
28 dead, 60 injured. Obama hasn't done a thing.
He doesn't acknowledge the JV team.
Obama must replace Erdogan today.
Fentrekker wrote:
Screw Obama wrote:28 dead, 60 injured. Obama hasn't done a thing.
What the hell do you think he should do? When he wanted to bomb ISIL a couple of years ago the Republicans blocked him.
Bullshit, the US did bomb ISIS, but only after bringing them into existence by arming and training the "moderate" jihadists trying to overthrow one of the last secular governments in the Arab world. Regime change is illegal. Obama is a war criminal.
The US bombing of ISIS failed because it was all for show. Obama and the CIA are on the Turk/Saudi/Sunni side trying to grab oil and pipeline routes, and also create general mayhem in the region to keep it weak enough to exploit as they've been doing for decades already.
Even though the Russians concentrated on bombing the NATO-backed jihadis, they still stopped ISIS cold, quickly and easily. With Su-24's! Obama and the democrats had no intention of fighting their jihadi allies. From Kennedy, to Carter, to Clinton, now Obama, the Democrats can always depend on new generations of blindly loyal fools who think they're less fascist than the GOP.
That's all wrote:
Obama must replace Erdogan today.
No kidding, Erdogan, Netanyahu, sisi, salman, ... the whoie gang of Nazis should be exiled.