How the hell is Alexi Pappas better than Hasay now at 10k?

Er... wrote:

Ehn, I disagree. Pappas is of Greek heritage and has a legitimate claim to citizenship. The couple who "skied" in the Olympics (she didn't show up for her event; he dropped out a few hundred metres into his) bought their citizenship (legally) and then invented the ski federation to march in the opening ceremonies and claim to be Olympians.

Maybe neither route to the Olympics is legit but I think what Pappas is doing is legit. What the other couple did was not.

Has Pappas ever been to Greece? Her article announcing her intentions to compete for Greece doesn't mention it:

How can you compete for a country you've never visited, or only been to as a tourist? She's a second generation American with Greek heritage. If Greece is going to allow her to compete, great for her, but she's not Greek. Funny that she's never mentioned her strong connection to her Greek heritage before this opportunity came up. You'd think she would've written an article or made a movie if it was that big a part of her life.

Eligible? wrote:

If she has already said that she is running for Greece, will Pappas be eligible to run at the US Olympic Trials (USATF Championships)? Not trying to hate but asking a legitimate question.

Kruppe wrote:

Hasay merely went for the standard... and she got it. Mission accomplished. We'll find out who is really better at the trials.

91% of U.S. Olympians already have the Olympic standard BEFORE the trials.

It is virtually crucial to have the standard BEFORE the trials.

Kobe Klanker is NO MOH wrote:

Stop pitching them two L.A. sluts, Hassay and Pappas.

1) Pappas is from near San Francisco, not L.A.

2) There is zero public indication about whether either is a "slut."

3) You didn't even manage to spell "Hasay" correctly, despite the fact that it is in the title of the thread, so would have been directly above what you were typing.

One of the lamer troll attempts I've seen on this site.

While also of Greek descent, I have the exact opposite body type of young Ms. Pappas. Plus, I am a 44 year old dude. Not nearly as compelling.

No we won't wrote:

Kruppe wrote:

Hasay merely went for the standard... and she got it. Mission accomplished. We'll find out who is really better at the trials.

Alexi Pappas is not running the trials.

Lexi is on a Olympic team, she has met the Oly games standard. She just has stay healthy now and re-boot her training towards the games. Her coach has international world class experience and will have her ready.

Jordan is on her way, sub 32 performance, Oly games standard, she will focus and be ready for the trials. Note that Lexi has been racing consistently the last few months, Jordan has not. Jordan will get faster and sharper.

Not Greek.

Hasn't ever visited that country of doping.

Lame.

why now brown cow? wrote:

but she's not Greek..

That's offensive. That's like saying someone of African descent isn't African.

Actually, the announcement implies that she's had Greek citizenship for a long time, possibly from birth. Doesn't she say she's been a dual citizen since birth? I haven't read anywhere that her Greek status has changed, just that she's opted to run for the country internationally.That said, it's bizarre how many people think they should know whether she's visited the country or expect to have learned on social media how fond she is of Greece. Do you really think even a figure as relatively public as Pappas puts everything about herself on the internet?

xcrunner6 wrote:

why now brown cow? wrote:

but she's not Greek..

That's offensive. That's like saying someone of African descent isn't African.

plantar fasciitis. doesn't use Peds.

Next question.

Eligible? wrote:

Bring Back the 880 wrote:

Pappas got 11th in a glorified time trial. Hasay made a US WC team. Both will get lapped in Rio (if they make it).

Compare their results at USATF championships and I don't think a case can be made yet that Pappas is nearly as good as Hasay.

The Olympic tourism stuff aside, I do admire Alexi for continuing to run and improve after leaving college. That is a great accomplishment in itself.

If she has already said that she is running for Greece, will Pappas be eligible to run at the US Olympic Trials (USATF Championships)? Not trying to hate but asking a legitimate question.

Why would she run an Olympic Trials that she doesn't need to run?

She ran at the 2012 Trials. Also '13, '14, '15 USATF championships.

I don't know the official process for representing Greece, but if that goes through, I'd imagine that she would no longer be eligible for competition in the USA national championship meets.

I'd be curious to know if USATF has a formal rule about this. Although it's not entirely analogous, other sports like football watch this very closely and have detailed rules. Canadian-born Owen Hargreaves was eligible to play for Canada by birth/citizenship, Wales through his mother and England through his father. Although he played for Wales as a youth, that didn't count for senior representation and he sat out an U21 match he was going to play for them when England said they wanted him. So he played a brief but successful international career for England, by far the toughest of the three teams to make.But even if Pappas declares to run internationally for Greece, she's still a US citizen. Wouldn't that make her eligible to compete for USATF funding, prizes, championships? Although I agree there's no way she'll run the 10,000m USA trials.

Bring Back the 880 wrote:

She ran at the 2012 Trials. Also '13, '14, '15 USATF championships.

I don't know the official process for representing Greece, but if that goes through, I'd imagine that she would no longer be eligible for competition in the USA national championship meets.

Jordan ran as hard as she could. 78 last quarter. She never would have lost to Alexi by choice, Alexi also isn't that far off Jordan's PR.

My guess is Alexi was undertrained most of her career and has really started to train. She looks like she has put on some muscle. Last yr she looked way too weak.

Hasay won't make the US Olympic team.

Hasay has been a track non-factor for years now. Just get to the marathon already! It must be obvious to her. She seems to enjoy the sport, but finishing mid pack in long track races is purgatory. Why wait - she may just have the marathon pixie dust?

Er... wrote:

I don't know the official process for representing Greece, but if that goes through, I'd imagine that she would no longer be eligible for competition in the USA national championship meets.

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Of course she is eligible, and rightfully so.

Stupid Americans wrote:

Er... wrote:

I don't know the official process for representing Greece, but if that goes through, I'd imagine that she would no longer be eligible for competition in the USA national championship meets.

Of course she is eligible, and rightfully so.[/quote]

She may be at the moment, but if a US citizen athlete runs for Greece in Rio, I don't think they would be allowed to toe the line at the '17 USATF world championships trials.

See Lagat in 05

reasons of the season wrote:

plantar fasciitis. doesn't use Peds.

Next question.

Alexi also eats a lot of spanakopita.

TruthSayer wrote:

Hasay used destroy this girl in college. Say it ain't so!

Not at 10km