Colorado Soil Mile Record - Hoping for a Sub-4 Mile ($6000 prize)

Was this year old thread bumped to say that the event will be included in this years meet?

It happens every year

High meet in Colorado, really? wrote:

Was this year old thread bumped to say that the event will be included in this years meet?

There are actually two meets, one in Lamar (I think) at lower elevation and the meet at Longmont, at about 5000 feet. It's a great idea and hope that they keep working on it. Might as well throw a CU Boulder indoor meet into the mix, with their new track and all.

Coyote Montane wrote:

High meet in Colorado, really? wrote:

Was this year old thread bumped to say that the event will be included in this years meet?

There are actually two meets, one in Lamar (I think) at lower elevation and the meet at Longmont, at about 5000 feet. It's a great idea and hope that they keep working on it. Might as well throw a CU Boulder indoor meet into the mix, with their new track and all.

If it is on a track, then can it really be a SOIL record?

Mile high mile in Denver, on a Saturday. Run it down Blake street or some such and finish in coors field before a baseball game. Then on Sunday, head up to Leadville and run a two mile high deuce down fifth street (steep downhill) for the quinela.

I'd buy a ticket.

If it is on a track, then can it really be a SOIL record?[/quote]

True, and I suspect all of these so called state soil records for the mile are bogus. Only the best time on a dirt track can be considered a stare soil record. This event is now meaningless unless they find a differnt venue or make some major changes to the existing one.

Info wrote:

If it is on a track, then can it really be a SOIL record?

True, and I suspect all of these so called state soil records for the mile are bogus. Only the best time on a dirt track can be considered a stare soil record. This event is now meaningless unless they find a differnt venue or make some major changes to the existing one.[/quote]

How about if the runner soils himself during the race?

coach deez nuts wrote:

Some random dude wrote:

It's going to take someone capable of 3:53.xx at sea level to do it.

No, it's not.

Yes, quite literally it will.

Naysayers need to step up and come run their race in CO and see where they stand against their PR's. Not even close is what they'll find. (After they're done puking from the effort!)

4flat wrote:

Crazy to think someone ran a 4:40 mile on top of Pikes peak (14,110) yet no one has broke 4 flat at 4,000ft.

who did this? when? It must have been run downhill on the road so altitude is basically irrelevant, and it has no bearing on what people should run at 4000 feet.

the main reason it has not been accomplished is because not that many elite runners are even attempting it. There are no professional track meets in CO that bear any resemblance to mt sac, payton jordan, drake, etc.

asdfdgjdfgrg wrote:

Info wrote:

If it is on a track, then can it really be a SOIL record?

True, and I suspect all of these so called state soil records for the mile are bogus. Only the best time on a dirt track can be considered a stare soil record. This event is now meaningless unless they find a differnt venue or make some major changes to the existing one.

How about if the runner soils himself during the race?[/quote]

who holds this record?

I'll pay $7,703 if anyone can break 4mins in Gunnison... home to Western State.

The conversion of 9 seconds for 1500m is very accurate up there... so need someone in 3.50 shape...

denisovich wrote:

[quote]4flat wrote:

Crazy to think someone ran a 4:40 mile on top of Pikes peak (14,110) yet no one has broke 4 flat at 4,000ft.

who did this? when? It must have been run downhill on the road so altitude is basically irrelevant, and it has no bearing on what people should run at 4000 feet.

Pikes Peak Beer Mile: The only mile record in Colorado that matters.

7703ft wrote:

I'll pay $7,703 if anyone can break 4mins in Gunnison... home to Western State.

The conversion of 9 seconds for 1500m is very accurate up there... so need someone in 3.50 shape...

Ain't nothing. Gunnison is weak

denisovich wrote:

4flat wrote:

Crazy to think someone ran a 4:40 mile on top of Pikes peak (14,110) yet no one has broke 4 flat at 4,000ft.

who did this? when? It must have been run downhill on the road so altitude is basically irrelevant, and it has no bearing on what people should run at 4000 feet.

the main reason it has not been accomplished is because not that many elite runners are even attempting it. There are no professional track meets in CO that bear any resemblance to mt sac, payton jordan, drake, etc.

You know not what you are talking about.

Scott Dahlberg ran 4:48 at the summit of pike's peak in 2013 on a sketchy 6 lap course on the top of the mountain (i.e., no net downhill).

Some college runners and pros have come close to 4:00 and the interest is gaining. I think the the prize for 2017 will be $7000, if they stick to adding $1000 per year.

Full Results of the 2013 Pikes Peak Mile. Some familiar names:

This year's St. Vrain New Balance Invitational Elite Invite Mile will take place at 7:15 pm on Friday, May 12th at Everly-Montgomery Field next to Longmont HS in Longmont, Colorado. (Altitude - 4984') This event is part of a high school track meet with 50 teams from around the state, and also includes additional elite events and prize money in the pole vault, 100 meter dash, and several other events, depending on interest. We have had 110 hurdles, 400 meter dash, 400 meter hurdles (women), and the 200 meter dash in past years. We have developed a relationship with the Altis training group in Arizona and also work with other professional athletes to provide an opportunity for post-collegiate competitors to pursue quality competition in an environment that allows them to give back to the sport they love and encourage the next generation of track-and-field athletes. We couldn't run these events without the tremendous support from New Balance and Above the Bar.

The ultimate goal for the elite men's mile from the beginning of this event has been a sub-4 effort "on Colorado soil" (even if there's a track between the runners and the soil :). The current record is 4:01.27 set by Tabor Stevens on April 17th, 2015 at the La Junta Tiger Relays. There were some great efforts on CU's new indoor track in early February this year when four young men ran times between the current record and the previous record of 4:03.99 set by Rory Fraser at this meet four years ago. It is our hope that the growing prize money will entice a stronger and stronger field each year. If the record is broken, the prize purse stands at $7,000 this year. We're also working with another revenue source to provide an additional bonus if the 4-minute barrier is broken. We expect it will be somewhere between $5,000 and $10,000 of additional prize money for the first sub-4 effort. This is a bit of an all-or-nothing prize pot. We will pay $250 to 1st place if no record is broken, and we will then add another $1,000 to the pot for the following year.

We will also have an elite women's mile with a new goal time this year of 4:39.50. The current record was recently established by Dani Jones of CU on February 3rd at the Colorado Open. The prize purse for this event is still in the works, and will be in the neighborhood of $1000. (We've struggled to find interested female runners to fill the field, even when we had comparable money.)

If you're interested in competing, please send your running resume and contact information to:

stvraininfo@gmail.com

Once we evaluate the entries, our selection committee will send invitations to those who are selected to compete.

Coach Roberts wrote:

The current record is 4:01.27 set by Tabor Stevens on April 17th, 2015.

Let's see, Tabor Stevens ran 4:01 in 2015 and y'all are saying it'll take a 3:55 guy to do it? LOL!

So I guess Tabor was in 3:56ish shape in 2015?

LOL!

Use y'all'uns heads!

shout out bro wrote:

Coach Roberts wrote:

The current record is 4:01.27 set by Tabor Stevens on April 17th, 2015.

Let's see, Tabor Stevens ran 4:01 in 2015 and y'all are saying it'll take a 3:55 guy to do it? LOL!

So I guess Tabor was in 3:56ish shape in 2015?

LOL!

Use y'all'uns heads!

Dude, conversion tables and arguments aside, there are numerous examples of altitude-trained runners significantly dropping time in the mile or two-mile, or their metric equivalents, once at sea level. Far too many examples to be outliers, though not everyone will experience the same level of success...

From 5,000' to sea level, five seconds is probably a good, fair estimate for the mile, so it's going to take an altitude-trained runner capable of running a sub-3:55 at sea level to go sub-4:00 at this meet, and it will need to be competitive.

By the way, Stevens' 4:01.3 was run at about 4,000' I believe, so he would get less of a conversion. He was probably a 3:57-3:58 guy at sea level.