Kiprop runs 1:44.70 TT at high altitude

You forget the particular of Kenyan Trials and the must, for Kenyan, of the final training camp.

I give you the date of Kenyan Trials during the last 5 years :

2011 : 16 July

2012 : 23 June

2013 : 13 July

2014 : No Championships

2015 : 1 August

After every National Trials, in Kenya there is for the selected athletes a Training Camp run by AK, Always lasting 3-4 weeks, and during that period the athletes are allowed to go to compete abroad for one meeting only.

So, which is the meeting ? Normally, is Monaco.

These are the date of Monaco during the same last years :

2011 : 22 July

2012 : 20 July

2013 : 19 July

2014 : 18 July (But no Championships)

2015 : 17 July

If I want to peak with one of my athletes, the period of max shape can last about one month. Look at the date of the top championships :

2011 (Wch) : 28 Aug - 1 Sep (42 days after Trials, and 36 days after Monaco, with 4 weeks of official Training Camp)

2012 (OG) : 4-7 Aug (40 days after Trials, two weeks after Monaco, everything during the official Training Camp)

2013 (WCh) : 13-16 Aug (one month after Trials and 24 days after Monaco)

2014 (No Champs) : Some athlete, such as Silas Kiplagat and Caleb Ndiku, in Commonwealth Games and African Championships, with a season very squeezed because at the end there was the World Cup)

2015 (WCh) : 27-30 August (Trials on 1st August, every race was carried out before that date, with Monaco on 17 July).

In my training plan, athletes must be in top shape during the period of Monaco, and not yet during meetings before that date (Shanghai, Rome, Prefontaine, Stockholm, Oslo). After top championships, it's difficult to have the same shape and same focus, and in some case (for example, in 2015) the calendar is very bad (Zurich was on 3rd September, 3 days after the final in Beijing, and the athletes didn't have time to recover energies and had the jet lag in their body).

You need to understand, when you speak about the best athletes, that they must have a specific technical plan in order to peak for the most important event. It's the coach deciding the strategy, and when you want to win some medal the choices of competitions must be carried out considering several factors, the most important among them the modulation of their training.

For that reason, the date of Monaco is the best for testing a fast competition when athletes are already in top shape : they come from Trials few days before (or have Trials few days later), and this is the only race they can run before the Championships.

You do the same mistake many LR posters do : thinking the Kenyan/Ethiopian activity is structured as US or European activity. The best athletes rarely are free to compete in Stockholm or Oslo, because the activity in Kenya is blocked (for the best athletes) during those periods, and also this year we have the same situation.

Athletes of other Countries can be free to chose competitions for running fast in all the periods of the season, but without the best Kenyans is difficult to find conditions for running under 3'30".

because it is games year

every race date is analysed to see if it fits in for peak at trials & then hold/re-peak for games

what part of games year did you miss ?

the schedule for an elite is already drawn-up right upto games

are you not aware that military precision has gone into planning for game's year ?

where is race analysis ?

i said where apart from monaco does the pacer go 2'32/2'33 ???

this paris race had pacer thru in pathetic

2'36.3 !!!

Silas went thru in 2'36.9 !!!

how on earth is 2'36.9 a 2'32/2'33 ???

once more, apart from monaco, the pacers were crap

& the pacer coudn't even lead Souly to bell

Souly was leading at bell in

2'37.9 !!!

more rubbish pacers

how do you figure 2'37.9 as 2'32/2'33 that the top $ manages to bring pacer-wise to monaco ???

let's see :

zurich was so rubbishly paced that inge was miles ahead of pacer & led thru in 2'39.7 !!!

how on earth is 2'39.7 a 2'32/2'33 ???

brussels had elite passing pacer before bell & leading in rubbish 2'38.3

how on earth is 2'38.3 a 2'32/2'33 ???

a non-global championship year when guys in better shape early season where they can chase clock if given pacing

however, rome-'14 had pacer out wide in 2'35.4 !!

Silas thru in 2'36.3 !!

how is 2'35.4 a 2'32/2'33 ??

not anymore

it is "just another meet" now with no great attraction

for a 2'32/2'33 equivalent to bell, a mile bell time has to be 2'48/2'49 at 1209.344m

i'm not going to bother with how rubbish the oslo bell time was compared to target of 2'48/2'49

- lausanne a 2'35.6 !!!

how is 2'35.6 a 2'32/2'3 ???

- brussels a 2'36.7 !!!

how is 2'36.7 a 2'32/2'33 ???

- rieti a 2'35.8 !!!

how is 2'35.8 a 2'32/2'33 ???

rieti-'13 had no vid but just race results

the pacing made to 1200 in 2'47+ by collins cheboi who was a 3'31 guy

hengelo-'12 has no vid but nixon thru in ~ 2'34

no

learn actual definitions

"reasonably fast" is not good enough

we want to see 3'26/3'27s not 3'29.9/3'30s as best

none of those races has had quality pacers apart from 1 in cheboi & vast majority had rubbish pacing at 2'35/2'39 !!!

have you ever read any of Canova's posts before ??

the ones where he says pacing is usually rubbish because promoters won't pay $10k for elite pacers ?

the meet promoters apart from monaco are not paying for top pacers

a top pacing duo will chage in excess of $10k to offer 2'32/2'33 pace & that means persuading a 3'30/3'31 guy to do it as a 3'32+ guy isn't quick enough to drag thru in 2'32/2'33

only monaco seem to pay for them

of course they woud

however, those meets aren't paying for the top quality pacers

if those guys want pacing thru 2'32/2/33 in those other meets then they are going to have to dig into their pocket & cough-up $10k to get a 3'30/3'31 guy to pace them thru

if you have read Canova in the past you woud know this

no

we won't know unless they had at least a couple of goes at 2'32/2'33 pace but no one is paying for these quality pacers apart from monaco

eh ???

where is the 2'32/2'33 pacing on those other tracks ???

see above for rubbish pacing they were offered

no

you don't define "near peak"

the "near peak" is probably 2 or 3s slower than peak

doha is 1st serious race of year & these guys are all fresh & these guys run well at near-peak form which is still many seconds shy of their actual peak

doha also has huge $$$ & they like monaco also pay for good/top pacers

show us the 2'32/2'33 pacing at these other meets ???

show us the 2'32/2'33 pacing at these meets ???

fresh, motivated, 1st serious race & huge $$$ to pay for pacers

that's is the explanation

why coudn't you come up with what is basic inference ??

both off no 2'32/2'33 but off great talent

where are the 2'32/2'33 pacing outside of monaco ???

it is nothing

wrong

not withstanding what credentials you have to rival canova, if elites are running 3'26.6 off 54.1 start & runt pacers & 3'27.6 with 53.9 finishes, it shows 3'30 is a nothing time if these elites get 2'32/2'33 pacing

2'31 woud be even better but that needs even more $$$

where is the 2'32/2'33 pacing on these other tracks ???

no

i am not talking theory i am talking reality

where is this 2'32/2'33 pacing on these other tracks ???

the promoters there don't pay enough for good enough pacers & majority of pacing is rubbish 2'36+

no

it requires $10k to pay 3'30/3'31 guys to sacrifice themselves in 2'32/2'33

monaco pays for it, no where else seems to apart from doha but even pacers aren't in good enough shape to do it that early

go fetch the bell-time in all those meets outside monaco

where are the 2'32/2'33s ???

not at all if you coud do just basic analysis

the answer is that monaco pays for best pacing & gets 2'32/2'33

where is the 2'32/2'33 pacing in all your other meets ???

'Asbel Kiprop 3'26"69 (coach Letting, with Rosa management)'

So why has the Rosa management been suspended?

Rosa had in his management 3 Kenyan athletes positive : Rita Jeptoo (EPO), Mathew Kisorio (steroids) and Agatha Jeruto (steroids). The real reason is that AK wanted to show that they investigated, and the guilty people were managers and foreign coaches. Instead, the guilty people were local doctors and pharmacists, who organized a criminal pool in order to cheat athletes having from them part of their incomes.

I continue to repeat : if you want to find some doped Kenyan, you need to look at second and third level athletes, who are pushed by local doctors to take some unknown pharmacy with the dream and the hope to fill the gap with the best Kenyan runners. But I can bet everything that ALL the top Kenyan in every event are clean, the only exceptions being Mathew Kisorio (who really asked for some pharmacologic help) and Rita Jeptoo (who feared, after winning Boston and becoming injured, not to have enough training, and looked at some shortcut for being competitive, with little training, in Chicago).

But put in your mind THEY ARE THE ECCEPTION, NOT THE RULE. Instead, when one of them is doped, and other 99 in top one hundred are clean, it seems that the doped is the rule, and the other are more smart, or more lucky, because are not caught, but are also doped.

How the organizers of London Marathon explained durimng the press conference, ALL the athletes involved in the Major (it means more than 60 athletes, the best in the event) have to face not less than 6 OOC tests, with blood, during the season, and this only with the money of Major Marathon. We need to add not less than 4-6 tests, OOC, for them, organized by WADA, and at the end we can say that ALL THE BEST MARATHON RUNNERS have not less than 10-12 blood tests per year, becoming the MOST TESTED athletes in the World.

I'm tired of people speaking without knowing the reality, but I've also to say that AK and IAAF didn't explain with numbers the reality, allowing suspicious people to stereotypate the situation in wrong way (especially American and European athletes, thinking all African are doped, when the reality is that almost nobody of the best is doped).

Now, in Kenya there is the ONLY LAW in the world making doped athletes charged for their doping, with very high fines and long period in jail. I hope that finally western athletes and coaches understand the following facts :

1) The best African are clean

2) The top results are fruit of talent and training only

3) This fact must change the European and American mentality, putting in the mind of the athletes that is possible to reach results of higher level using training only, with the right motivation, without creating in the own mind barriers and limits that are not real, but fruit of weak mentality and of fright.