Finisher Medal- wrote:
Folks, here's the reality. HS girls regularly break 1:00 in the 400 dash. If you can't run a 1:00 400 and then a 59.9 consecutive 400, you either haven't run any speed workouts or you simply have "slow turtles running through glue" disease.
I've run faster than your criteria in all events except the 800, and even made one well into my 50s.
Just sayin' you're a little bit weird.
Finisher Medal- wrote:
elmore345 wrote:I think the 16 min 5k time is much better than a 35 min 10k.
The facts don't care what you think. Take 16 minutes, multiply it by 2 and add 30 seconds for each mile of the 10k (because of Slower Race Pace) and you're at 35:00. They're Equal.
macmillian calcultor
Distance
Time
Pace/Mi
800m
2:04.1
1Mi
4:36.6
4:36
2Mi
9:47.6
4:53
5km
16:00
5:09
10Km
33:14
5:21
1/2 Mar
1:14:05
5:39
phaaat wrote:
It is true that on the 2014 revised edition of the IAAF Scoring Tables that a 16:01 5k is worth a 34:04 10k. However, those scoring tables are for multi-eventers foremost, and those guys need to be able to do some sprinting, so there would be a steep drop-off as you get up in distance. Furthermore, as someone else already said, they are based on actual performances, not performance equivalents. If your goal, OP, is to define non-hobbyjogger status as having bested only one of the times, you must choose equivalent performance times, not ability outcome times.
Hobby jogger should be a comparison of yourself against your peers, not some theoretical best of your abilities calculation. Thus, IAAF tables should always trump McMillan, Daniels, Tinman, etc.
4:30 and 2:00 are unattainable for a lot of people, including a lot of good runners
I am living proof that 16:00 is miles better than 35:00!! I have a 16:29 5k and a 33:40 10k
What's the window? Race in last year?
This chart is a good example of one race's criteria.
http://www.bolderboulder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Qual_Chart_2016.pdf
Arbitrary time list:
800m--2:00.00
1600m--4:30.00
3200m--10:00.00
5000m--16:00.00
10000m--35:00.00
Half marathon--1:20:00.00
Marathon--2:45:00.00
Proper comment on said list:
No freakin' way.
I broke 4 of those 7 (and EASILY for those 4), just missed two others and missed one by a decent amount.
But, I was always a hobby jogger...and I even made a little bit of money with running...paid my rent with it one month.
Unless you make a living from running (or benefited in a big way from your running as in a D1 or D2 scholarship athlete), you are a hobby jogger. Being a hobbyist doesn't have anything to do with any level of ability shown in any arena (running, photography, race car driving, clog dancing). It ONLY has to do with whether you make a living from said activity.
Personally, being a hobby jogger has little to with ability and far more to do with knowledge.
Anyone that can't understand that a 4:00 mile won't get you into the Olympics, for example. Or that a 4:15 is no where close to 4:00. Or that a 15:00 5k is so far away from Mo Farah it's not worth talking about. Or talks about the 1600m or 3200m (repulsive distances). Or doesn't realise someone puts in a decent amount of work to achieve performances such as sub 2:00 800m, 4:25 mile, 16:30 5km, a 1:15 half or 2:40 full etc.
If you are easily offended whenit is suggested that you are a hobby jogger, you most certainly are one
reading btwn the lines wrote:
If you are easily offended whenit is suggested that you are a hobby jogger, you most certainly are one
Haha. Well I can make 4 of those 'standards' stated by the OP pretty easily.
I could easily say anyone that can't break 3:50 in the 1500m is a hobby jogger. Or can't break 1:50 in the 800m. Doesn't make it true.
I still think being a hobby jogger is about mindset and knowledge.
I have run significantly faster than these times for most of these distances. However, I definitely consider myself to be a hobby jogger because a) I run as a hobby these days; b) I don't train hard or that often c); I don't really care about performing well like I used to in my college years. I am not in my best shape but could still achieve at least half of these standards. So what am I and why?
TroLLminator wrote:
I have run significantly faster than these times for most of these distances. However, I definitely consider myself to be a hobby jogger because a) I run as a hobby these days; b) I don\\\'t train hard or that often c); I don\\\'t really care about performing well like I used to in my college years. I am not in my best shape but could still achieve at least half of these standards. So what am I and why?
Spot on I\\\'m exactly like you .
At my best I broke 15m for 5k just ... And a 3130ish 10k
I\\\'m older now and can\\\'t get near them times . At the time I was a hobby jogger and now 10years on half a stone heavier I\\\'m still a hobby jogger . Just slower .
To me under 14m 5k and sub 30m 10k is non hobby jogger material
Flagpole wrote:[/b
I broke 4 of those 7 (and EASILY for those 4), just missed two others and missed one by a decent amount.
Bm.
So you haven't run a half or a full marathon yet?
TroLLminator wrote:
I have run significantly faster than these times for most of these distances. However, I definitely consider myself to be a hobby jogger because a) I run as a hobby these days; b) I don't train hard or that often c); I don't really care about performing well like I used to in my college years. I am not in my best shape but could still achieve at least half of these standards. So what am I and why?
Why are you people trying to own, "jogger" when in fact you are running when"you" race!
Word have meanings apart from your feelings
Did you seriously just equate a 1:40 half marathon with a sub 3:00 marathon?!! Pace prediction calculator. Learn how to use it. For example: I run about the equivalent of a 1:32 half marathon every weekend (race in the low to mid 1:20s) in my long run and have not broken 3:00 in the marathon!
Letsrunner :) wrote:
4:30 and 2:00 are unattainable for a lot of people, including a lot of good runners
Name a good runner that can't run a 4:30 mile (and isn't in junior high).
i chose D2 wrote:
Letsrunner :) wrote:4:30 and 2:00 are unattainable for a lot of people, including a lot of good runners
Name a good runner that can't run a 4:30 mile (and isn't in junior high).
Amanda Gehrich the #1 American prep female miler last outdoor season. 4:39 if I remember correctly.
Let's add 50 miles less than 5 hrs 50 min.
If you can't run a 3 hour marathon, you shouldn't be running 1:32 halfs as your long run