Conundrum wrote:
If you had no notice than your employer is really unfair and is trying to take advantage. Be very friendly but set a far price for transition work.
He does not have an employer.
Conundrum wrote:
If you had no notice than your employer is really unfair and is trying to take advantage. Be very friendly but set a far price for transition work.
He does not have an employer.
Blah Blah Blah Blah wrote:
Conundrum wrote:If you had no notice than your employer is really unfair and is trying to take advantage. Be very friendly but set a far price for transition work.
He does not have an employer.
. . . troll attempt by someone who does not understand the W2/1099 difference.
Note that a number of replies question or touch on the terms of the OP supposed employment specifics.
Don't ignore the email. Send the email back clearly stating that you will be have to be reimbursed for the extra time. Don't leave them hanging. It will come back to bit you down the line.
The German inqisition wrote:
Send him an invoice for time already used and an estimate for the summary he wants, Let him decide if he really wants the summary.
Not sure why you'd want to work for him under any circumstances. I would send a polite note telling him that you are sure that he understands that you needed to take another job after he let you go, so your attention needs to be on getting established in your new position now.
Give him the contract information for one or two people who can answer questions about the old job.
The bridge is already burned. He fired you.
Reflectorer wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:Tell him to sit on it and rotate
Wow, that expression was big in the 1970s.
Indeed it was :)
webby wrote:
The German inqisition wrote:Send him an invoice for time already used and an estimate for the summary he wants, Let him decide if he really wants the summary.
Not sure why you'd want to work for him under any circumstances. I would send a polite note telling him that you are sure that he understands that you needed to take another job after he let you go, so your attention needs to be on getting established in your new position now.
Give him the contract information for one or two people who can answer questions about the old job.
The bridge is already burned. He fired you.
no no no no no no. NEVER BURN BRIDGES. NEVER!!!! Even if you think the other guy burned the bridge, they might not see it that way.
The world is a very small place, and you always end up running into the same people again and again in any given industry.
Rule #1: The more people who like you, the easier your life will be.
You want lot's of people who want you to succeed. If they like you then they'll want you to succeed. Do you know that likeable sales guy who doesn't seem to know anything about anything but makes a ton of money anyway? Yeah. That's not incompetence you're looking at, that's genius. He gets it. Good sales guys are always doing favors for people.
I thought about this last night and you might consider investing in this opportunity by working for free for a while. Doing someone a favor will help your reputation and might get repaid some day. You'll always have someone out there who owes you something, and that's a comforting thought. It certainly won't hurt. It has limits but it's worth considering.
Reflectorer wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:Tell him to sit on it and rotate
Wow, that expression was big in the 1970s.
With the gender confusions of the now generation he will likely take up the sit and rotate offer!
Perhaps a middle of the road approach would be to reply and say you wish you could complete the work at no charge because you really want to help out, but that your current time constraints don't allow for doing unpaid work. If they reply with "we will pay you", then do it. If not they are not willing, then you have politely shown them you would like to help, but can't justify it given your circumstances. That actually sounds like what is happening anyway - seems like you are on pretty good terms with them.
bobby ss wrote:
I work at my home office as a business consultant.
I was in the hospital for eight days and my first day back to work I get an email saying that I am let go and I can schedule a call to talk with the boss.
So the boss and I talked and he asked me to summarize my work so I can hand it off to him. I agreed even though I knew I was not going to get paid for the four hours it will take me to complete the task. But I did it anyway.
Then a week later I get another email from my boss wanting me to summarize a client that I worked on but was not included on the day I was let go.
I did not respond to the email. Three days after the email the bosses secretary called me and left a message saying that the boss sent and email and you might have missed it. Please give us a summary of your work for XXX client.
I did not respond to the voice mail message.
Would you respond and do the extra work for free?
By the way, I found another job that pays a lot more.
Reply with, "Sorry I am starting a new job and so don't have time to do unpaid work."
No mess with invoices or negotiating. Unless you are desperate for potential money, or are still under some contract, just say you can't.
UPDATE?????
DiscoGary wrote:
webby wrote:Not sure why you'd want to work for him under any circumstances. I would send a polite note telling him that you are sure that he understands that you needed to take another job after he let you go, so your attention needs to be on getting established in your new position now.
Give him the contract information for one or two people who can answer questions about the old job.
The bridge is already burned. He fired you.
no no no no no no. NEVER BURN BRIDGES. NEVER!!!! Even if you think the other guy burned the bridge, they might not see it that way.
The world is a very small place, and you always end up running into the same people again and again in any given industry.
Rule #1: The more people who like you, the easier your life will be.
You want lot's of people who want you to succeed. If they like you then they'll want you to succeed. Do you know that likeable sales guy who doesn't seem to know anything about anything but makes a ton of money anyway? Yeah. That's not incompetence you're looking at, that's genius. He gets it. Good sales guys are always doing favors for people.
I thought about this last night and you might consider investing in this opportunity by working for free for a while. Doing someone a favor will help your reputation and might get repaid some day. You'll always have someone out there who owes you something, and that's a comforting thought. It certainly won't hurt. It has limits but it's worth considering.
What are you going on about? I said send him a polite note. Are you saying that the only way to proceed is to continue working for free. Giving up your dignity is not a recipe for long-term success.
webby wrote:
What are you going on about? I said send him a polite note. Are you saying that the only way to proceed is to continue working for free. Giving up your dignity is not a recipe for long-term success.
How do you give up your dignity when the buy just wants an update on a project the OP was working on? What is the big deal? It isn't as if he working working for $15 an hour (he already has a new job at much better pay) and needs the money. Plus how long can it take, an hour or two more.
What if you were a contractor going out and bidding on a job. Would you want to get paid for pricing the job, even if you didn't get it. Plenty of people do things without getting paid.
To me, the guys is told he can't be afforded anymore and wants details of the projects so he can take over. So, be nice and do it and then move on. This is not a big deal and certainly not about dignity. Man how some people think....
webby wrote:
What are you going on about? I said send him a polite note. Are you saying that the only way to proceed is to continue working for free. Giving up your dignity is not a recipe for long-term success.
I was reacting to the bridge burning part. You should never assume that the bridge is burned and then start acting as if that gives you some freedom to take shots at someone. I know you didn't say that, but I was stressing the point.
I admit that working for free creates a counter-incentive, but doing people favors is a good idea as long as it's not too disruptive.
justthefacts wrote:
To me, the guys is told he can't be afforded anymore and wants details of the projects so he can take over. So, be nice and do it and then move on. This is not a big deal and certainly not about dignity. Man how some people think....[/quote]
His boss should have gotten this information before he was fired or let go. I wouldn't worry about burning this bridge. Nothing is owed to his boss. The guy is an ass to begin with and I am willing to wager that he doesn't have any respect in the industry anyway.
Why not negotiate fair pay for your work?
You can be reasonable without "burining a bridge" --or on the other end of the spectrum--get taken advantage of.
DiscoGary wrote:
webby wrote:Not sure why you'd want to work for him under any circumstances. I would send a polite note telling him that you are sure that he understands that you needed to take another job after he let you go, so your attention needs to be on getting established in your new position now.
Give him the contract information for one or two people who can answer questions about the old job.
The bridge is already burned. He fired you.
no no no no no no. NEVER BURN BRIDGES. NEVER!!!! Even if you think the other guy burned the bridge, they might not see it that way.
The world is a very small place, and you always end up running into the same people again and again in any given industry.
Rule #1: The more people who like you, the easier your life will be.
You want lot's of people who want you to succeed. If they like you then they'll want you to succeed. Do you know that likeable sales guy who doesn't seem to know anything about anything but makes a ton of money anyway? Yeah. That's not incompetence you're looking at, that's genius. He gets it. Good sales guys are always doing favors for people.
I thought about this last night and you might consider investing in this opportunity by working for free for a while. Doing someone a favor will help your reputation and might get repaid some day. You'll always have someone out there who owes you something, and that's a comforting thought. It certainly won't hurt. It has limits but it's worth considering.
THIS.
Never burn bridges.
I have left jobs and moved 100+ miles away thinking I would never see the people I was leaving again. I wanted to tell a couple what I thought of them. Instead I simply thanked them for the opportunity, wished them the best and moved on. Over time our paths crossed several times in unexpected ways. Leaving in a classy way ended up helping me in several instances where they ended up knowing people I was trying to get a job with and even though I was not using them as a refrence they were called and asked about me.
I have never regretted being classy. I have regretted being a jerk.
bobby ss wrote:
I work at my home office as a business consultant.
I was in the hospital for eight days and my first day back to work I get an email saying that I am let go and I can schedule a call to talk with the boss.
So the boss and I talked and he asked me to summarize my work so I can hand it off to him. I agreed even though I knew I was not going to get paid for the four hours it will take me to complete the task. But I did it anyway.
Then a week later I get another email from my boss wanting me to summarize a client that I worked on but was not included on the day I was let go.
I did not respond to the email. Three days after the email the bosses secretary called me and left a message saying that the boss sent and email and you might have missed it. Please give us a summary of your work for XXX client.
I did not respond to the voice mail message.
Would you respond and do the extra work for free?
By the way, I found another job that pays a lot more.
Nope.
Or offer him this: "unpaid labor is illegal in our state, as is also called 'usery." "You let me go one day after I was in the hospital. Exactly why should I perform a days work for you for free?" "--I've already helped you unpaid once, it won't happen again as it was not part of a compensated exit package for me."
"However, I am willing to do it as a consultant and my rate is ...(4x your formerly hourly equivelant).
GL
DiscoGary wrote:
webby wrote:What are you going on about? I said send him a polite note. Are you saying that the only way to proceed is to continue working for free. Giving up your dignity is not a recipe for long-term success.
I was reacting to the bridge burning part. You should never assume that the bridge is burned and then start acting as if that gives you some freedom to take shots at someone. I know you didn't say that, but I was stressing the point.
I admit that working for free creates a counter-incentive, but doing people favors is a good idea as long as it's not too disruptive.
For a conservative nut, you sure give good business advice :)
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