Molly Huddle Interference? Should Huddle have been DQd for flailing her arms out at United Airlines NYC Half?

Charlie Lyons wrote:

Molly was cut off 3-4 times by the Kenyan runner, and I say this as an athlete not with as someone with an ounce of pro-America sentiment. The Kenyan runner seemed oblivious that she was doing cutting Molly off. Because of this, Molly lost her stride a couple of times.

So, if you are interfered with earlier in the race, you can cheat at the finish? I don't think so, bud.

If Huddle feels she was interfered with, she is welcome to protest.

She is not welcome to CHEAT her way to a win.

Besides, the Kenyan runner was simply two steps ahead and running the tangents. The fact that Huddle wouldn't lead or even move parallel is on her. This isn't a training run with buddies making way for each other not to go through puddles. Same as on the track, nobody has a duty to move out and let someone ride their inside shoulder around turns.

Bill the pill wrote:

For the Kenyan she needed to expect Molly's arms to go up.

Huh???

bkrunner wrote:

Serious question: What are the odds that this is even on NYRR's radar? Is there any chance that they are reviewing the video and having a conversation about potentially changing the results? Or is this over and done with, given Huddle's status with NYRR?

Not the NYRRC's responsibility, it's the fouled athlete's job to file a protest if unseen by finish line USATF official.

And that needed to be done within two ours of the foul I believe

I'm also not sure that Chepkirui was cutting her off in the preceding 800m... it seemed as she (with half a stride lead) was following the camera car and Molly dropped back to run the tangents in those three turns after the tunnel

Molly does block the Kenyan but the Kenyan was trying to run right through her space. She is allowed to defend that space.

You don't get to pass like the Kenyan attempted to. You have to pass in your own space.

need that watch wrote:

Parallel wrote:

I'm surprised no one pointed this out: look how Chepkirui remains parallel to the yellow lines until the last three steps when she is being cut-off / forced left by Huddle. Definite DQ.

Yes. Perfectly holds her line while Huddle arm-bars her.

Gross that NYRR is too cowardly to DQ the home runner.

Imagine Rupp getting arm-barred by a German runner in the Berlin marathon, and the German not getting DQed. (Off course, Rupp and a German would be fighting for 13th place in Berllin.)

Rupp insult out of the unrelated subject...like it

pick a lane wrote:

Molly does block the Kenyan but the Kenyan was trying to run right through her space. She is allowed to defend that space.

You don't get to pass like the Kenyan attempted to. You have to pass in your own space.

HAVE YOU EVER RUN A RACE?

NO, you cannot "defend" space that is BESIDE YOU by PUTTING YOUR ARM INTO THAT SPACE.

What you CAN do is RUN IN A STRAIGHT LINE. The most "defense" you are entitled to is that you can (and should) hold your own line.

Why does someone with your knowledge feel compelled to make up a response? This is like reading YouTube commenters on Bolt's false start.

Winners put there arms up at the finish to break the tape with their body.

It's kind of a thing...

Up...not OUT

Bill the pill wrote:

Winners put there arms up at the finish to break the tape with their body.

It's kind of a thing...

Are you still pretending that was a celebration?

If only we could find and compare another video of Huddle's celebrations, to see if she typically "celebrates" with a ONE ARM thrown out HORIZONTALLY. (Of course! The "one-sided airplane" celebration that is so commonly see at road races!)

Here's a hint: look at the video of her early celebration in the WC.

tough times wrote:

Bill the pill wrote:

Winners put there arms up at the finish to break the tape with their body.

It's kind of a thing...

Are you still pretending that was a celebration?

If only we could find and compare another video of Huddle's celebrations, to see if she typically "celebrates" with a ONE ARM thrown out HORIZONTALLY. (Of course! The "one-sided airplane" celebration that is so commonly see at road races!)

Here's a hint: look at the video of her early celebration in the WC.

Here is how she normally celebrates. As you will see there is plenty of room to her left:

centrostud wrote:

Up...not OUT

And not just with one arm.

A winning runner is always going to finish with arms above finish tape, so elbows are going to go up.

You can slow the race down further to 0.25 speed in youtube under the lower right gear icon and look closely at the last slow mo.

Tt looks like Huddle's left arm swings back and bounces off charging Chepkirui torso at 0:55 for first contact, then moves forward to bounce off Chepkirui rising right forearm early in 0:56, then she instinctively extends her arm out further between those two collisions,. The race over before 0:57 in the slow mo.

tough times wrote:

Are you still pretending that was a celebration?

It's not celebrating; it's breaking the tape. That's something you may not know anything about? If you ain't first you're last.

You can't compare the track finish because there's no tape.

need that watch wrote:

been around 'ya know wrote:

That incidental contact had no impact on the race finish.

It was not incidental contact.

Yes, yes it was. Did Chepkirui lodge a protest? I haven't seen any reports of that.

Correct.

Correct.

silly wrote:

centrostud wrote:

Up...not OUT

And not just with one arm.

Correct.

Correct.

Bill the pill wrote:

tough times wrote:

Are you still pretending that was a celebration?

It's not celebrating; it's breaking the tape. That's something you may not know anything about? If you ain't first you're last.

You can't compare the track finish because there's no tape.

So first you said she was celebrating. And now you're saying she was "breaking the tape" by extending ONE arm straight to the LEFT...you know, like all runners do.

Just stop, Danny.

How much of an obstacle is Huddle's outstretched arm? Even a 100-lb Kenyan can run through that like it was blade of long grass.

Molly needs to go over her finishing situations with Ray though.