Why do people desire Track & Field to fail?

I'm tired of drug testing. I want EXCITEMENT and RECORDS!!!!

The IAAF needs to put out a press release stating they are doing away all testing. Races and performances will speak for themselves.

I GUARANTEE this will make headlines and generate interest GLOBALLY. We will be able to explore the human potential and stop the witch hunts. Cry baby clean athletes can make room for the CHAMPIONS.

Human Potential wrote:I GUARANTEE this will make headlines and generate interest GLOBALLY. We will be able to explore the human potential and stop the witch hunts. Cry baby clean athletes can make room for the CHAMPIONS.

Because women who look like this are just what track needs to be popular and to get girls interested in being track athletes:

Jed Clampett wrote:Why do people get hung up on posting stories about doping on here? Do they not realize that all this stuff, much of it false, is beginning to ruin our sport?

Doping is beginning to ruin our sport, not stories about doping.

Putting your head in the sand or covering up doping will not save the sport.

Jed Clampett wrote:

Why do people get hung up on posting stories about doping on here? Do they not realize that all this stuff, much of it false, is beginning to ruin our sport?

I agree. While eliminating doping in our sport is essential, stories surrounding allegations get too hyped up and too many fingers are pointed without any concrete evidence.

Because its a joke of a sport and the powers are not interested in cleaning it. Lets just change it to WWE

Track and Field MUST fail, that it may be reborn as the purest and most glorious expression of itself. Only after the institutions of the false prophets Coe and Salazar have been destroyed will the torch of our sport be carried by the hands of the most worthy of athletes. The mighty will be laid low, and the meek (distance runners with Low T, probably) shall inherit the earth.

Sounds like the Current Republican Presidential Race!

Agreed.

Why would someone who has built up there body for 10 years or more want to stick poison into it? I would think few would want to do this even for Olympic glory.

This might be a little off topic, but I do not want world records to be broken.

Why?

Because the faster the world record is the slower I was!

If that is true why not get rid of all sports?

I might not even go to these html posts anymore. Usually they make you wait forever for them to come up and there is advertising like crazy. Also I have found that most of the posts just say the person was "suspected of doping," or "allegations have shown," or words to the effect.

You could probably cut and paste from the article, IF, you have the time to go to it. I do not have that kind of time!!!

In this case I already know about Jarmila Kratochvilova and the many records she set. I think it probable that she just "ran her butt off." People refuse to think that you can just outwork the competition.

Putting articles and saying there is doping in track & field is similar to going around the neighborhood and telling people your wife is a whore!

If you are done with her, that might be a good idea. But if you intend to keep her around, you are only harming yourself.

It's sad that some people cannot see that!

Jed Clampett wrote:

In this case I already know about Jarmila Kratochvilova and the many records she set. I think it probable that she just "ran her butt off." People refuse to think that you can just outwork the competition.

Running your butt off, doesn't make girls look like dudes

Jed Clampett wrote:

Why do people get hung up on posting stories about doping on here? Do they not realize that all this stuff, much of it false, is beginning to ruin our sport?

Depends what you mean by 'fail'. Real Runners gonna run whatever goes on at the top. If by fail you mean meet crowds/TV contracts decline due to peoples disgust at what they see as PEDS, thats a good thing for the sport IMO. So, in that respect I want TnF to fail. Take away the dumb prize money at the top (includes major marathons, of course) and poof - problem solved.

What world TnF organizations should be doing is diverting more resources to local initiatives to promote TnF as exercise to enhance wellbeing, expanding grass roots club programs for kids and such worldwide. Devolve power to locals. Kids don't give a hoot about elites. By all means have a championship or something, but I want far less hoopla.

If TnF dies because lack of investment means kids never even get interested, THAT's a far greater tragedy than PEDS.

Nonononobody can do the boogal wrote:

suspending an entire country, Russia, is extreme. Because each individual has not been proven to violate standards. It's blanket totalitarian discrimination. It's far reaching, and overzealous. It's policies like that that take it too far.

I agree with the sentiment. It is the worst case for clean athletes from a suspended country.

But the system is such that the national federations and antidoping agencies are responsible for their own athletes. So if they are not compliant, there is no other way than banning the organizations. It is far from ideal, and prone to corruption to have each country police their own athletes, but it is what we have right now.

Jed Clampett wrote:

Putting articles and saying there is doping in track & field is similar to going around the neighborhood and telling people your wife is a whore!

If you are done with her, that might be a good idea. But if you intend to keep her around, you are only harming yourself.

It's sad that some people cannot see that!

You seem to be assuming that no one in the sport is hurt by doping and that publicizing it serves no good purpose. If you're a clean athlete who loses a championship, its big payday, the inevitable performance bonus which follows such a championship, or a berth on a national team, to a doped athlete you've been robbed and the people running your sport need to do what they can to protect you from that sort of robbery. If they don't do that THEN the sport has failed.

If you know of some way to protect such athletes that doesn't result in stories about doped athletes going public let's hear it. If your only solution is to let doping go on the question from my perspective becomes why you want to see the sport fail.

The way through this is via education about elite sport. Unfortunately, the people and organizations with the capacity (e.g. the resources, the voice) are interested - some deliberately, such as WADA and the IOC, some not so deliberately (god forbid I'd mention names) - in selling a particular version of sport (i.e. 'clean sport) that's pretty radically different than the way sport has always been.

If these people/groups don't acknowledge the history first, and they haven't yet, then they'll never get to the roots of the issue and the sport generally will continue to face the same problems.

As someone who has studied, taught about, and published on elite/high-performance sport for years, it's frustrating to see the same arguments and approaches mentioned again and again when there's very good critical research out there that would at least suggest a new perspective on, if not new approaches to doping. I've mentioned it here many times, I've messaged the Brojos about it, but my posts are routinely deleted and most people continue to parrot the WADA line (kudos to WADA - they're a marketing organization that markets well!).

Agree with those who prefer a clean sport to a fast sport. Seems like corruption and dope are here to stay, unfortunately.

Seems like there is some good news for Jarmila at 65, at least. She looks better than ever.

http://g.denik.cz/33/74/280715-vy-20-jarmila-cmyk_denik-605.jpg

Edward teach wrote:

The sport fails if anti doping measures fail. We don't want it to turn into the nfl where it's all about entertainment because everyone is on steroids and other peds. Or maybe you just want to be entertained Jed instead of knowing who the best athletes are.

I 100% want it to turn into the NFL. The NFL is exciting. It's not about entertainment. It's about who is winning and losing.

Track and field is also about winning and losing. The problem with track is their is little to know strategy. What you do doesn't impact what your competitors do. Thus PEDs kill the entire sport. In the NFL, even with PEDs, you have interceptions, strategy, etc. PEDS are still bad, very bad but you still have a shot even if you aren't on PEDs.