Why do people desire Track & Field to fail?

The sport fails if anti doping measures fail. We don't want it to turn into the nfl where it's all about entertainment because everyone is on steroids and other peds. Or maybe you just want to be entertained Jed instead of knowing who the best athletes are.

Don't want it to fail, just want fair play.

A realistic goal is to have Track and Field become cleaner than the NFL as far as percentage of participants using illegal performance enhancers.

The NFL used to have a big steroid and HGH problem, but the NFL players association demanded a crackdown on the cheats, now the NFL is squeeky clean, Track and Field should follow the NFL's example.

Edward teach wrote:

The sport fails if anti doping measures fail. We don't want it to turn into the nfl where it's all about entertainment because everyone is on steroids and other peds. Or maybe you just want to be entertained Jed instead of knowing who the best athletes are.

Wrong the NFL got rid of its steroids, HGH etc. you might find an occasional cheat in the NFL, but you are far more likely to win the Lotto.

Do you enjoy hearing about concussions every time you watch a football game? I do not see the logic in your answer.

The thing I concentrate on will loom even larger than it actually is. It's like when you play golf, all you see is the pond in front of the hole. It keeps getting bigger and bigger.

Personally I would rather not know about any of this drug stuff until someone is actually proven guilty. Remember the old "innocent until proven guilty?"

I'd like that back!!!

I do not want my sport in The National Inquirer.

The NFL is squeaky clean? Tell that to Vikings, Patriots, and Ravens fans just to name a few. What a joke!

The sham of the NFL PED program is a total joke. The NFL is self-policed and self-tested like the IAAF, IOC, NYPD, FBI, etc. You know they let everyone get away with cheating.

I didn't wish it to fail until I started coming here and seeing the type of people who embody the sport.

Jed Clampett wrote:

Why do people get hung up on posting stories about doping on here? Do they not realize that all this stuff, much of it false, is beginning to ruin our sport?

OK, I will admit that I want track and field to fail as we know it. That's because it's been a circus-like sport for years with widespread doping. It's very much like the way the Tour de France was in Lance's heyday. I want the sport to be cleaned up before I can take it seriously.

suspending an entire country, Russia, is extreme. Because each individual has not been proven to violate standards. It's blanket totalitarian discrimination. It's far reaching, and overzealous. It's policies like that that take it too far. There is such a thing as going over the top, and that's where I find the loudest voices on the anti-drug side not able to be fair. They're ideologues. The "testers" or governance can be just as maniacal and sick as the cheater. But you can't tell them. All they see is "justice" at any cost, even if they wipe out people that haven't been proven guilty.

There needs to be standards for enforcement too.

Jed Clampett wrote:

Why do people get hung up on posting stories about doping on here? Do they not realize that all this stuff, much of it false, is beginning to ruin our sport?

Malmopause

I also hate retro medal awarding. Where they test a sample for 12 years over and over until they find something. They re-award the medal to someone else. That makes the sport unstable. You watch a meet, you think you see the winner but in reality its unofficial indefinitely. If they pass all the tests before the meet, and immediately after, the samples should be thrown out. It's over. All we are doing is looking for problems. You pass the tests to get in the meet, the meet is OVER. On to the next one.

concon wrote:

I didn't wish it to fail until I started coming here and seeing the type of people who embody the sport.

lol

Unfortunately the sins of a few, taint the good deeds of the many.

Edward teach wrote:

The sport fails if anti doping measures fail. We don't want it to turn into the nfl where it's all about entertainment because everyone is on steroids and other peds. Or maybe you just want to be entertained Jed instead of knowing who the best athletes are.

Why would we not want it to turn into the NFL? I mean other than the whole concussion thing...

Sloop John B wrote:

Unfortunately the sins of a few, taint the good deeds of the many.

The clean athletes and coaches have about two quarters to rub together if they make any money at all in the sport.

I just don't see the OP's logic. The IAAF is a worldwide monopoly with IOC funding. You can't kill it.

It's a worldwide joke by the IAAF's own doing, but that's different.

Well drug testing is a joke isn't it? Always has been. This is a new drug being bandied about as a so called performance enhancer. You could say that about thousand of drugs with potentially millions of drugs to be developed.

The whole PED concept is nonsense. Runners still have to produce sustained power through the feet and ankles. There is no drug to give you that skill.

People talk such dreadful pseudoscientific bollocks about exercise physiology and the 'drug problem' is the absolute pinnacle of the pseudoscience.

Cheeeters wrote:

The sham of the NFL PED program is a total joke. The NFL is self-policed and self-tested like the IAAF, IOC, NYPD, FBI, etc. You know they let everyone get away with cheating.

They are very entertaining.

Sloop John B wrote:

Unfortunately the sins of the many, taint the good deeds of the too few.

FIFY

Jed Clampett wrote:

Why do people get hung up on posting stories about doping on here? Do they not realize that all this stuff, much of it false, is beginning to ruin our sport?

Emphasis mine.

I wish it were false. The fact of the matter is that until the federations, IAAF, IOC, and the sponsors decide to clean house we will continue to suffer from this steady drip of poison. If I were a betting man I would put money down on Seb Coe and company taking action sometime around January 2017 (after the Olympic cash bonanza has passed). Maybe squeeze a some big sweeping bans between the next President inauguration and the Super Bowl to maximize distractions.