Interval training every day?

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8 years ago 02/01/2016 3:39pm EST

re: south dakota

I don't intend to follow the plan given, this was just an example of the idea I have been thinking about.

But you raise an important point about the highlighted sessions actually being quite difficult on the easy days.

So how about instead of halfing the sessions, reduce the pace whilst maintaining volume. But the pace will still be more specific to 1500m running than 7:00 min+ miles. You can take as much rest as required between the reps, idea is to run relaxed and finish feeling fresh.

Reviewed example of potential easy sessions:

6 x 1 mile @ half marathon pace

5 x 1km @ 10k pace

8 x 600m @ 10k pace

6 x 400m @ 5k pace

8 years ago 02/01/2016 3:50pm EST

re: Metric Miler

You'll be injured after a couple of weeks.

8 years ago 02/01/2016 4:02pm EST

re: 345elmore

345elmore wrote:
You'll be injured after a couple of weeks.

No you won't. For the millionth time, runners did this and ran fast for decades.

8 years ago 02/01/2016 4:14pm EST

re: 345elmore

345elmore wrote:
You'll be injured after a couple of weeks.

Why? For me I have always found that the long stuff such as the 10 mile runs etc causes me the most trouble with regards to injury. I've never pulled a muscle or anything by being on the track doing sessions. When I'm slogging out long runs or have had periods of higer mileage I have found issues with shin splints and Achilles pain or IT band syndrome. All repetitive use injuries.

8 years ago 02/02/2016 3:38am EST

re: Metric Miler

Metric Miler wrote:
Well this is my idea, no endurance runs.
The longer interval sessions at a comfortable pace replace these. Less distance, time and repetitive stress on the body.
You will definitely improve aerobically doing these sessions. My question is will it be better than a long run or not?

8 years ago 02/02/2016 10:55am EST

re: Metric Miler

I like how you made the "easy" sessions easier. I would be curious if you did this for 4 weeks, how would you feel day to day and week to week? Also, would your times for the workouts and races get faster, stay the same, or deteriorate?

If you actually try this, let us know how it goes.

8 years ago 02/02/2016 5:41pm EST

re: SlowFatMaster

I am tempted to try this, but the coach I am working with at the moment probably wouldn't advocate this method, and I do not wish to be at loggerheads with him.

I may try this in the summer, if I do I will keep everyone updated.

7 years ago 05/24/2016 1:35am EDT

re: Metric Miler

Metric Miler wrote:
The traditional training regime for middle distances and above seems to be intervals 2-3 times a week and long runs the other days. For people that double up training, this tends to be 3 interval sessions a week plus up to 11 runs a week also.
My question is this, why not do far more specific interval sessions? They are more specific to the sport than going out for a jog, and less harmful to joints and tendons than a hard run.
These do not need to be intense, but will be specific to a required pace. You are supposed to feel like you could have done more repetitions afterwards. It is unnecessary to perform all these sessions all on the track.
For example, a 1500m runner may do the following (winter):
Mon (easy): 5 x 1km @ 5k pace with adequate rest
Tues (hard): 15 x 200m @ 1500m pace, 45s rest
Wed (easy): 5 x 600m @ 3k pace with adequate rest
Thurs (hard): 8 x 400m @ 1500m pace, 1:30 rest
Fri (easy): 6 x 1.6km (or mile) @ 10k pace adequate rest
Sat (hard): 5 x 300m @ 800m pace, 3:00 rest
Sun: Rest
Far less volume, but lots more quality without being intense.
Thoughts?

Are you crazy bro?

7 years ago 05/24/2016 1:39am EDT

re: Metric Miler

What you are doing is modified Igloi or Igoli (sp).

Do what you want with your life. But let us know if this experiment of yours works!

7 years ago 05/24/2016 2:15am EDT

re: NeelD

NeelD wrote:
Metric Miler wrote:
The traditional training regime for middle distances and above seems to be intervals 2-3 times a week and long runs the other days. For people that double up training, this tends to be 3 interval sessions a week plus up to 11 runs a week also.
My question is this, why not do far more specific interval sessions? They are more specific to the sport than going out for a jog, and less harmful to joints and tendons than a hard run.
These do not need to be intense, but will be specific to a required pace. You are supposed to feel like you could have done more repetitions afterwards. It is unnecessary to perform all these sessions all on the track.
For example, a 1500m runner may do the following (winter):
Mon (easy): 5 x 1km @ 5k pace with adequate rest
Tues (hard): 15 x 200m @ 1500m pace, 45s rest
Wed (easy): 5 x 600m @ 3k pace with adequate rest
Thurs (hard): 8 x 400m @ 1500m pace, 1:30 rest
Fri (easy): 6 x 1.6km (or mile) @ 10k pace adequate rest
Sat (hard): 5 x 300m @ 800m pace, 3:00 rest
Sun: Rest
Far less volume, but lots more quality without being intense.
Thoughts?
Are you crazy bro?

I am completely neutral on the answer to the question for Metric Miler which is: Are you crazy bro?

Maybe yesâ€¦or maybe no.

But definitely maybe.

7 years ago 05/24/2016 2:32am EDT

re: Metric Miler

Problem with this kind of training is that it's very hard to time your peak with this as opposed to the usual base building to quality type of training. Johnny Gray's coach was Igloi influenced and when peaked, he ran fantastic times, but quite often his peak did not coincide with the big championship races and he consistently underperformed in them.

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