Official 2016 Dubai Marathon Live Discussion Thread

The Dubai Marathon video is still up.

http://www.dubaimarathon.org/live-stream/

Thanks for the explanation. I am sure many and most runners are clean. Rita Jeptoo won the WMM. Imagine the outcry if the male winner was caught. Kisorio was among Kenya's best for a time. Can you name comparable distance track athletes from other countries caught in the last 5 years? Ramzi, the Russians? Kenya and Ethiopia have dominated the sport for decades. So much so that the sport has lost popularity in other parts of the world. They are poor countries but at some point the should take responsibility for making it clear that they are pushing for clean athletes. Their federations should be leading the conversation on ABP's, not criticizing everyone for not understanding.

It was clear to me, in the last half mile or so, that Abera had a much better sprint or a lot more left in the tank than Berhanu . Likely both, and he could actually have won by more, but wisely chose did not risk it. Unwisely he miscalcd his kick by a couple of seconds.

We shall see how Abera follows this up. Based on career so far, I bet this is his peak.

It is kinda suspicious that all these Ethiopians, whom no one had ever heard about, showed up and then they take all spots on the podium.

And then the brojos post that it's worth it to dope like crazy for a year, not get tested and then go to Dubai where you know you can run without being bothered.

Some would say it is a level playing field - but it's not a level playing field when compared to Berlin or London, where these runners have to endure testing like they're some kind of animal.

Of course it is peak. He won a top marathon.

You know how they say runners only have a few good marathons in them? Most runners only have ONE 2:04 or less marathon. You push that hard, you pay the price.

BTW, this course is tougher than Berlin. Berlin is probably short (easy to cut the official tangents?) anyways and it is cooler.

The other guy! wrote:

then the brojos post that it's worth it to dope like crazy for a year, not get tested and then go to Dubai where you know you can run without being bothered.

Training with THE DIRTIEST DOPER ever has convinced them of that.

Bobblehead DOPER wrote:

The other guy! wrote:

then the brojos post that it's worth it to dope like crazy for a year, not get tested and then go to Dubai where you know you can run without being bothered.

Training with THE DIRTIEST DOPER ever has convinced them of that.

While I personally believe that Paula was CLEAN, it was interesting that she talked about cleanup and renewal process etc but she did not doubt any of the Dubai runners from Ethiopia.

Dubai marathon watcher wrote:

Bobblehead DOPER wrote:

Training with THE DIRTIEST DOPER ever has convinced them of that.

While I personally believe that Paula was CLEAN, it was interesting that she talked about cleanup and renewal process etc but she did not doubt any of the Dubai runners from Ethiopia.

Hard to come to terms with the fact that Tirfi Tsegaye, an accomplished born at altitude female marathon runner, ran a PB but was over four minutes slower than the drug free English born Radcliffe's best.

Standard Chartered Mumbai Marathon 2015

Published on Jan 19, 2015

Ethiopian Tesfaye Abera won the Standard Chartered Mumbai Marathon, crossing the finish line in 2 hours, 9 minutes and 46 seconds on Sunday. Compatriot Debele finished the race just under a minute behind Abera, clocking a time of 2 hours, 10 minutes and 31 seconds.

HALF MARATHON VIEW GRAPH

PERFORMANCE PLACE DATE

2016 1:01:38 Dubai 22 JAN

2014 1:00:57 Yangzhou 20 APR

2013 1:01:06 Rabat 07 APR

2012 1:00:32 Nice 29 APR

2011 1:02:56 Laâyoune 25 DEC

Oh really. wrote:

Dubai marathon watcher wrote:

While I personally believe that Paula was CLEAN, it was interesting that she talked about cleanup and renewal process etc but she did not doubt any of the Dubai runners from Ethiopia.

Hard to come to terms with the fact that Tirfi Tsegaye, an accomplished born at altitude female marathon runner, ran a PB but was over four minutes slower than the drug free English born Radcliffe's best.

There, there. It's ok. You'll be alright. In the end, it's really pretty simple actually. One is way more talented than the other.

rockabyebaby wrote:

Oh really. wrote:

Hard to come to terms with the fact that Tirfi Tsegaye, an accomplished born at altitude female marathon runner, ran a PB but was over four minutes slower than the drug free English born Radcliffe's best.

There, there. It's ok. You'll be alright. In the end, it's really pretty simple actually. One is way more talented than the other.

Which is "hard to come to terms with", not difficult to understand "actually".

Oh really. wrote:

rockabyebaby wrote:

There, there. It's ok. You'll be alright. In the end, it's really pretty simple actually. One is way more talented than the other.

Which is "hard to come to terms with", not difficult to understand "actually".

Excellent! I see that you "understand"

rockabyebaby wrote:

Excellent! I see that you "understand"

Idiot.

Oh really. wrote:

Hard to come to terms with the fact that Tirfi Tsegaye, an accomplished born at altitude female marathon runner, ran a PB but was over four minutes slower than the drug free English born Radcliffe's best.

rockabyebaby wrote:

There, there. It's ok. You'll be alright. In the end, it's really pretty simple actually. One is way more talented than the other.

Tirfi Tsegaye is way more talented.

Just incredible. Imagine running a 2:04 marathon and finishing second. Running 4 back to back 10Ks sub 30 and finishing with a 2K at the same pace.

If you took the 50 best high school runners in the U.S. and had them run 120 miles a week at altitude for five years, focus on the marathon, and offered them 5 million dollars if they ran under 2:05, how many would be able to do it on the Dubai course? I bet a decent number. There are more Ryan Halls and Dathan Ritzenheims out there. Probably on the JV basketball team . . .

"Don’t misunderstand us. Anyone who runs 60:32 for the half marathon at age 20 less than a year after running on the 4 x 400 at the African Champs (that’s what

http://www.tilastopaja.org/

says happened for Abera) is clearly a talent. But there is no way in heck you’d predict a guy who still hasn’t broken that 60:32 pb"

This tells me I don't know anything about distance running.

Rule 1, guys 6 foot 4 are too tall to compete with 5 foot 8 guys beyond 12k at the very top.

Rule 2, a guy that can run a fast 400 can't run world record pace of most of a marathon one year later.

then again, until bolt came along, no one was predicting a tall guy would run 9.5, not in a million years.

maybe this guy is not that tall, and not that fast and not that young?

i have no idea. great run. great to know the rules really don't apply in special cases.

despite most of the evidence to the contrary, the world really isn't a cliche. its an ongoing experiment.

Bump. It looks like the world jr record holder who took third this year is one of the positive results. The Tokyo champ who ran 2:04:52 in Dubai a little while ago. There can still be a lot of great, clean runners but can we be so sure the drugs would not work?