Yeah, that wasn't 4 hours. It was a 12 hour drive.
Yeah, that wasn't 4 hours. It was a 12 hour drive.
It ain't chump change.
"1800 - Peter Chebet Full Marathon 1st
$800- Juluis Koskei Half Marathon 2nd
$600- Philip Lagat Half Marathon 3rd
$800- Russian Lady Half Marathon 2nd.
$4,000 dollars total gone for more PED USE in Hebron, KY!"
runthecountry wrote:
Who was it wrote:Which one got busted now?
Lilian Moraa Moriita
What a joke. She was busted for EPO and could only run a 1:15-1:16 half and a 34 ten k.
Agreed, you call 4,000 chump change? Exactly! I feel sorry for the guys who finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th at the half, and 2nd thru 4th in the full. Knowing more than likely they lost out on my money. Shame!
fred wrote:
It ain't chump change.
"1800 - Peter Chebet Full Marathon 1st
$800- Juluis Koskei Half Marathon 2nd
$600- Philip Lagat Half Marathon 3rd
$800- Russian Lady Half Marathon 2nd.
$4,000 dollars total gone for more PED USE in Hebron, KY!"
Are Peter Chebet and Philip Lagat from the Hebron group, though? I have raced against Philip Lagat, and I seem to remember his hometown listed as Colorado Springs.
fred wrote:
runthecountry wrote:Lilian Moraa Moriita
What a joke. She was busted for EPO and could only run a 1:15-1:16 half and a 34 ten k.
I think she has actually run a 1:11 at some point. I know she ran 1:12 to win $1000 in St. Louis:
http://www.itsyourrace.com/results.aspx?id=257Other guys that were busted:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5524103&page=1
runthecountry wrote:
fred wrote:It ain't chump change.
"1800 - Peter Chebet Full Marathon 1st
$800- Juluis Koskei Half Marathon 2nd
$600- Philip Lagat Half Marathon 3rd
$800- Russian Lady Half Marathon 2nd.
$4,000 dollars total gone for more PED USE in Hebron, KY!"
Are Peter Chebet and Philip Lagat from the Hebron group, though? I have raced against Philip Lagat, and I seem to remember his hometown listed as Colorado Springs.
The runner-up in the men's full marathon was Peter Chebet of Hebron, Ky.
runthecountry wrote:
fred wrote:It ain't chump change.
"1800 - Peter Chebet Full Marathon 1st
$800- Juluis Koskei Half Marathon 2nd
$600- Philip Lagat Half Marathon 3rd
$800- Russian Lady Half Marathon 2nd.
$4,000 dollars total gone for more PED USE in Hebron, KY!"
Are Peter Chebet and Philip Lagat from the Hebron group, though? I have raced against Philip Lagat, and I seem to remember his hometown listed as Colorado Springs.
May 24, 2015 - Philip Lagat, Hebron, KY, 2:21:12
runthecountry wrote:
fred wrote:What a joke. She was busted for EPO and could only run a 1:15-1:16 half and a 34 ten k.
I think she has actually run a 1:11 at some point. I know she ran 1:12 to win $1000 in St. Louis:
http://www.itsyourrace.com/results.aspx?id=257
Yes, you are right.
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8 km Road 26:55 Virginia Beach (USA) 18.03.2012
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fred wrote:
May 24, 2015 - Philip Lagat, Hebron, KY, 2:21:12
Thanks - maybe he moved there after the race he was listed as being from Colorado Springs. I looked up the training groups' website, and didn't see either Lagat or the other guy listed (but then again, the website didn't really seam up to date, either). Also, I don't know if there are other groups in Hebron that may be clean - I guess theoretically there could be, but it is a pretty small town for multiple training groups.
Larisa - age 38 - 10 Miles Road 56:58 Philadelphia (USA) 01.05.2005
I have an issue with this group because they take advantage of the kindness of races and unfairly pull all the cash from them. If RD's keep seeing that these races are won by cheaters, what's going to stop them from pulling the prize money out of the race and taking it from people who deserve it? These races would still make tons of money as "citizen" races. The prize money set-up is essentially out of kindness and is an investment in the athletes, and people like this ruin the integrity of that.
Also, the group has an "agent" that demands travel and lodging money out of the elite coordinators, then piles them all in one van and makes the trip up. Not only do they sweep the prize monies they take a lot of travel money that they don't actually need for the trip and pocket it. Another issue I have (and probably the most important one) as a sub-elite that works full-time and also runs, is that they do this just so they can live the running bum lifestyle which is essentially poverty. Have some damn respect for yourself and at least get a part time job. Living off of the kindness of these RD's is the same or worse than living off of the system. It grates my nerves.
Wrong.. wrote:
Kdoo wrote:You guys are pathetic. If you want to win prize money, then train better and get faster. All you're really saying here is that you want everyone faster than you to be banned. Throw in some racism too.
No you are pathetic, I too have noticed many runners from this area at races winning money. How can you be okay with someone cheating and taking money away from other runners. Also race doesn't matter when it comes to cheating at running. You have Russians and Kenyans cheating but some how we are only busting people of one race. You are the one bringing race into by the way. I question if you are where drunk when you wrote your post.
No, you are wrong.
1. I did not bring race into this. One of the first posters literally said "kenyans" and "Africans". Can you not read?
2. How can I be OK with cheaters? I never said I was. You're making things up. The point is that you guys have decided that this entire training group, "Kenyans", and "Africans" are all cheaters without actual proof.
3. Suck it up and train better. If you want the prize money, then with the race.
themanontherun wrote:
Kdoo wrote:You guys are pathetic. If you want to win prize money, then train better and get faster. All you're really saying here is that you want everyone faster than you to be banned. Throw in some racism too.
And if you're already training as hard and as fast as you can, and you're losing out on prize money to people who aren't training any harder or faster than you but instead are using illegal doping, what then?
And I don't think racism plays into this all that much; look at the vitriol directed at Paula, Rupp, Salazar, etc.
It's not abut training harder and faster. It's about training better.
Racism clearly plays into this or else one of the first posters wouldn't have mentioned specific races.
If they are cheating then that is wrong. But if you're condemning people that haven't tested positive, you are pathetic.
Kdoo get a life, and crawl out from under your rock...club is full of cheaters, and again, as many we cannot wait to this group is,gone, finished, kaboom.....
Then they will have too be shipped back to never land and farm, instead of juicing up and stealing money from races that they give nothing in return...
Kdoo wrote:
If they are cheating then that is wrong. But if you're condemning people that haven't tested positive, you are pathetic.
While there is a chance not everyone in the group is cheating, your logic is not really sound. What people are condemning is a group that has had multiple positives, and races a prolific number of small to mid-range races without testing. That pattern of behavior opens them up to all the suspicion and criticism they are getting, in my mind.
AMEN, TO THE ABOVE ^^^^ POSTER.
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