I challenge anyone to logically defend this action: Feds Order High School To Allow Boys Who Dress As Gir

YesYesYes wrote:

Get used to it.. wrote:

You stupid conservatives try to use the slippery slope arguments at the worst times. It really makes you look stupid. There are laws against public indeciency. There are no laws against co ed showers...next!

Wrong.

According to Lambda Legal

http://www.lambdalegal.org/

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"A transgender person should use the restroom that corresponds to his or her gender identity. (We are talking about a boy here, SO HE SHOULD USE THE BOYS ROOM).

"The medical community (and increasingly, employ-ers, schools and courts) now recognize that it is essential to the health and well-being of transgender people for them to be able to live in accordance with their ***internal gender*** identity in all aspects of life—restroom usage is a necessary part of that experience.

"In Doe v. Regional School Unit, the Maine Supreme Court held that a transgender girl had a right to use the women’s bathroom at school."

NEXT.

YesYesYes wrote:

YesYesYes wrote:

Wrong.

According to Lambda Legal

http://www.lambdalegal.org/

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"A transgender person should use the restroom that corresponds to his or her gender identity. (We are talking about a boy here, SO HE SHOULD USE THE BOYS ROOM).

"The medical community (and increasingly, employ-ers, schools and courts) now recognize that it is essential to the health and well-being of transgender people for them to be able to live in accordance with their ***internal gender*** identity in all aspects of life—restroom usage is a necessary part of that experience.

"In Doe v. Regional School Unit, the Maine Supreme Court held that a transgender girl had a right to use the women’s bathroom at school."

NEXT.

So as I said before: Anyone justifying the decision as we need to be tolerant- Using YOUR argument, people need to be tolerant of public sex.

YesYesYes wrote:

Get used to it.. wrote:

You stupid conservatives try to use the slippery slope arguments at the worst times. It really makes you look stupid. There are laws against public indeciency. There are no laws against co ed showers...next!

Wrong.

According to Lambda Legal

http://www.lambdalegal.org/

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"A transgender person should use the restroom that corresponds to his or her gender identity. (We are talking about a boy here, SO HE SHOULD USE THE BOYS ROOM).

"The medical community (and increasingly, employ-ers, schools and courts) now recognize that it is essential to the health and well-being of transgender people for them to be able to live in accordance with their ***internal gender*** identity in all aspects of life—restroom usage is a necessary part of that experience.

"In Doe v. Regional School Unit, the Maine Supreme Court held that a transgender girl had a right to use the women’s bathroom at school."

NEXT.

YesYesYes wrote:

YesYesYes wrote:

Wrong.

According to Lambda Legal

http://www.lambdalegal.org/

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"A transgender person should use the restroom that corresponds to his or her gender identity. (We are talking about a boy here, SO HE SHOULD USE THE BOYS ROOM).

"The medical community (and increasingly, employ-ers, schools and courts) now recognize that it is essential to the health and well-being of transgender people for them to be able to live in accordance with their ***internal gender*** identity in all aspects of life—restroom usage is a necessary part of that experience.

"In Doe v. Regional School Unit, the Maine Supreme Court held that a transgender girl had a right to use the women’s bathroom at school."

NEXT.

So as I said before: Anyone justifying the decision as we need to be tolerant- Using YOUR argument, people need to be tolerant of public sex.

Get used to it.. wrote:

You moron, you just proved my point. Gender identity is the gender people identify with. So Kaitlyn Jenner should use the ladies room. My God you freaking conservatives are so blinded by hate it makes you stupid.

YesYesYes wrote:

Wrong.

According to Lambda Legal

http://www.lambdalegal.org/

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"A transgender person should use the restroom that corresponds to his or her gender identity. (We are talking about a boy here, SO HE SHOULD USE THE BOYS ROOM).

"The medical community (and increasingly, employ-ers, schools and courts) now recognize that it is essential to the health and well-being of transgender people for them to be able to live in accordance with their ***internal gender*** identity in all aspects of life—restroom usage is a necessary part of that experience.

"In Doe v. Regional School Unit, the Maine Supreme Court held that a transgender girl had a right to use the women’s bathroom at school."

NEXT.

lambic wrote:

I understand that this is unfamiliar and can be challenging for many. At some point, we have to decide what is an acceptable reason to be uncomfortable, and what isn't. Think about it this way: what if it was a lesbian student, and the district said that she had to use a separate locker room? What if the student in question was black, and white students were uncomfortable using the same drinking fountain as the black student? Reasonable people can disagree about what is appropriate, but I, and the ACLU, and the Department of Education, agree that "discomfort" in this case is discrimination.

To get more specific: what is the actual worry here? That your daughter would find out what external genitalia look like? If she goes to a D211 school, she's lucky enough to have sex ed as part of a required health class.

Are you afraid that the transgender student is going to behave inappropriately? Because that's not determined by whether the person is transgender or not-- straight, cis-gender students can behave inappropriately in a shared shower situation, too.

What is your actual concern about having a transgender student showering in the vicinity of other students that share her gender identity?

(FWIW, I grew up in the area, and graduated from Palatine HS, a D211 school.)

lambic wrote:

I understand that this is unfamiliar and can be challenging for many. At some point, we have to decide what is an acceptable reason to be uncomfortable, and what isn't. Think about it this way: what if it was a lesbian student, and the district said that she had to use a separate locker room? What if the student in question was black, and white students were uncomfortable using the same drinking fountain as the black student? Reasonable people can disagree about what is appropriate, but I, and the ACLU, and the Department of Education, agree that "discomfort" in this case is discrimination.

To get more specific: what is the actual worry here? That your daughter would find out what external genitalia look like? If she goes to a D211 school, she's lucky enough to have sex ed as part of a required health class.

Are you afraid that the transgender student is going to behave inappropriately? Because that's not determined by whether the person is transgender or not-- straight, cis-gender students can behave inappropriately in a shared shower situation, too.

What is your actual concern about having a transgender student showering in the vicinity of other students that share her gender identity?

(FWIW, I grew up in the area, and graduated from Palatine HS, a D211 school.)

racket wrote:

lambic wrote:

I understand that this is unfamiliar and can be challenging for many. At some point, we have to decide what is an acceptable reason to be uncomfortable, and what isn't. Think about it this way: what if it was a lesbian student, and the district said that she had to use a separate locker room? What if the student in question was black, and white students were uncomfortable using the same drinking fountain as the black student? Reasonable people can disagree about what is appropriate, but I, and the ACLU, and the Department of Education, agree that "discomfort" in this case is discrimination.

To get more specific: what is the actual worry here? That your daughter would find out what external genitalia look like? If she goes to a D211 school, she's lucky enough to have sex ed as part of a required health class.

Are you afraid that the transgender student is going to behave inappropriately? Because that's not determined by whether the person is transgender or not-- straight, cis-gender students can behave inappropriately in a shared shower situation, too.

What is your actual concern about having a transgender student showering in the vicinity of other students that share her gender identity?

(FWIW, I grew up in the area, and graduated from Palatine HS, a D211 school.)

I think you've raised a good question.

Do we not assign locker rooms based on sex though? Males go to one, females go to another. Your race or sexual orientation doesn't change that, and I think we can all agree that's a good thing! So should we start designating locker rooms based on identified gender? I'm curious what this er..girl... does in public situations. Does she waltz into the girl's bathroom and accept the strange looks?