How fast is "fast" for mens masters???

If you are not running 14:30 5K's I'm going to pass you up with my cane.

Here's the USATF Masters Championships calendar. You'll be sure to find the best Masters in the US at these races. I don't know how much prize money is required, but the 10K in Paso Robles will have $20,000 just for Masters.

I would say that the top 3 to 5 masters in the US are around 29-29:30 for 10K.

From Running USA Wire, 1/13/02:

2003 USA Masters Championships Announced

INDIANAPOLIS - The USA Track & Field Masters Long Distance Running

Committee

has announced its 2003 USA Masters Championship schedule. The New Bedford

Half-Marathon on March 16 in New Bedford, Mass. kicks off the seven event

masters national championship road series that features athletes 40 and

older

who will be competing at distances from 5K to the marathon. Each national

championship also offers masters prize money.

New this year is the inaugural Road Runner Akron Marathon Relay on

October 11

in Akron, Ohio. The race will serve as the first-ever USATF Club Marathon

Relay National Championship.

"We have selected a compliment of fine events from around the country

that

will showcase our talented masters athletes. Like past national

championships, we look forward to another exciting year of racing as the

competition should be keen and numerous U.S. single age and age group

records

should be set," said Ken Robichaud, USATF LDR Masters Championship Chair.

2003 USA Masters Championship Schedule

1) New Bedford Half-Marathon, New Bedford, MA March 16

2) Fifth Third River Bank Run 25K, Grand Rapids, MI May 10

3) Ogden Newspapers Classic 20K, Wheeling, WV May 24

4) Freihofer's Run for Women 5K, Albany, NY May 31

5) Heritage Oaks Bank 10K, Paso Robles, CA September 28

6) Twin Cities Marathon, Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN October 5

7) Road Runner Akron Marathon Relay, Akron, OH October 11

Based in Indianapolis, USA Track & Field is the national governing body

for

track and field, long distance running and race walking. For more

information, visit its website at:

http://www.usatf.org

One book I have at home has a table in the back (sorry I can't remember whose book it is as am at work...will check and update you) that breaks down times for national and world class times....for 10K I think it is about 29-31 for world class, for national class 31-33 maybe. Iwill get the other infor fo you or maybe others here know of the same source.

ONE MILE

M40 MILE

WR: 4:02.53 David Moorcroft(GBR) 40 6-19-93

WR(i): 3.58.13 Eamonn Coghlan(IRL) 41 2-20-94

Best time 2002

4:09.61 Tony Young - USA

3000 METERS

M40 3000 METERS

WR: 8:05.08 Martti Vainio(FIN) 40 6-12-91

Best time 2002

8:09.13 Marcus O?Sullivan - IRL(i)

5000 METERS

M40 5000 METERS

WR: 13:45.6 Lucien Rault(FRA) 40 5-21-76

Best time 2002

14:13.31 Danny Martinez - USA

10,000 METERS

M40 10,000 METERS

WR: 28:30.88 Martti Vainio(FIN) 40 6-25-91

Best time 2002

29:25.55 Paul Evans - GBR

Thanks for the link.

Two things:

1) These must have been USATF or TAC sanctioned events, because when looking at the US record times for 19-22 year olds, a few Colorado Americans have beaten those times - not to mention several other college athletes.

2) I see that no one in the U.S. over the age of 36 has broken 14 minutes for 5,000 - damn it - I guess my dream is over. Where's that remote? I guess it's time to watch all the TV I've been missing. Is Fonzi still popular?

mad props to danny martinez-- alhambra in the house, baby!!!

Try this link. This is not really what you are after, but it is interesting.

http://www.personal.rdg.ac.uk/~snsgrubb/athletics/wavalookup.html

Try

www.masterstrack.com

You can get results from meets there and see where you stand.

I used to have a link to a Mississippi guy's web site that had age graded tables AND workout tables. The workout tables would show sample workouts for target race times. For example, 8x400 @61 = 4:15 mile, 8x400 @63 = 4:22 mile. Anyone know here I can find these again?

bon appettit!

geeze--screw the workout tables--just freakin run and race--if you race to your capability --you'll hit your target time...(guess what, it's true even if you didn't know you're "target time")...

Eddy H ran a 45:20 15K at age 41. That would be 3 15:07 5Ks in a row. That's fast. On a related note, there seems to be deeper master's competition on the roads than on the track. I assume that's because the roads pay better.

Try this link..it has everything you will ever want to know about master racing.