Either way, he seems like a good kid and a solid runner. Just wondering if the rules changed.
Either way, he seems like a good kid and a solid runner. Just wondering if the rules changed.
Cool Mo Dee wrote:
Either way, he seems like a good kid and a solid runner. Just wondering if the rules changed.
I didn't think so (but could be wrong). More likely: Ivies thrown a $hit-ton of financial aid to those who qualify, and if someone's a good athlete and financially qualifies, they might be even more apt to throw that money his way. I've heard many people call this "receiving a scholarship", but it ain't.
No scholarships but if your family makes under $100,000 it's only like $2,000 a year.
Not true - my parents combined income was below 100,000 and my financial aid package was 23,000 (in 2002). I did not accept their offer because I could not afford that.
FINANCIAL AID CRITERIA
Ivy League schools provide financial aid to students, including athletes, only on the basis of financial need as determined by each institution’s Financial Aid Office. There are no academic or athletic scholarships in the Ivy League. A coach may assist a prospective student-athlete to obtain an estimated financial aid award, however only the Financial Aid Office has the authority to determine financial aid awards and to notify students officially of their actual or estimated awards.
A prospective student-athlete who receives an estimated need-based financial aid award is welcome to share it with other Ivy League schools. In some cases Ivy League financial aid offices may reevaluate and adjust an estimated financial aid award based on a written need-based award or estimate from another school. Ivy League coaches may not discourage a prospect from sharing an award, or from obtaining an estimated award from another Ivy institution.
Declined wrote:
Not true - my parents combined income was below 100,000 and my financial aid package was 23,000 (in 2002). I did not accept their offer because I could not afford that.
Your experience was 13 years ago, policies have changed in that time. The most expensive Ivy for a family under $100,000 is Penn and they would still only cost about $9,000.
Interesting. The family definitely makes north of $100k.
Parents lie to make themselves sound good. They hope the person they lie to doesn't know about how Ivy athletics really work.
Lots of interesting things here. Enumerated below is what I know.
1) No, I have not posted under another name in this thread. WEJO, DO AN IP CHECK, AND IF I LIE, BAN ME FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2) Ivy League schools do NOT give athletic or academic scholarships (though you CAN win departmental financial awards, etc. once you are there).
3) Yes, parents like to put the best possible spin on things. Sounds impressive if your kid got into an Ivy League school. Sounds more impressive if they got a "scholarship". To be fair, often it is simply easier to let others assume or not correct them if they say something like "I assume Johnny got a scholarship." I know a family with a kid at Princeton. She got a "full ride" which is sometimes mentioned by the parents. Others ASSUME it is due to merit, and then they tell others that. It is ONLY due to their lower income. Also, to be fair, in the financial aid package of the college my daughter goes to (one that does not give academic scholarships; most elite colleges do not), it labels the GRANT that we got from the school due to our less than $150,000 annual income as a "college scholarship", so technically we COULD say she got a scholarship. I never do though because I like to preach the truth that people of moderate means can send their kids to elite schools...just got to get in first.
4) I agree with others that the example from the early 2000s doesn't hold true today. Stanford recently announced that for those families making $125,000 or less, their admitted student will receive full tuition. If the family income is $65,000 or less, they also get room and board, so if you make $100,000 a year, and you get into Stanford, you will get full tuition AND then some off your room and board. That is very much in line with what the Ivy League schools and most elite colleges in the US do currently.
Flagpole wrote:
4) I agree with others that the example from the early 2000s doesn't hold true today. Stanford recently announced that for those families making $125,000 or less, their admitted student will receive full tuition. If the family income is $65,000 or less, they also get room and board, so if you make $100,000 a year, and you get into Stanford, you will get full tuition AND then some off your room and board. That is very much in line with what the Ivy League schools and most elite colleges in the US do currently.
If anything, that is new to within the last 10 years.
I graduated from Harvard in 2006 with student debt due to the loans Harvard offered me for my financial aid (about $30k total - parents made > $100k total) while I still needed to work a student job in order to finish off paying my tuition. In 2008 or so, Harvard changed the financial aid policy in that they stopped handing out loans and became more generous with the financial aid grants based on parental income. From what I had heard at the time, Harvard was one of the last Ivies to adjust to this "loan-free" policy (not sure if it was really the case). I was cursing Harvard for a week since I could have finished school debt-free had they implemented that new policy a few years earlier.
Thankfully, I got a job quickly when I was done with grad school so the loans are now fully paid for.
They do not "do" scholarships. Why does everyone have to use the word "do" now when a more specific verb is available?!?!
award
offer
distribute
bestow
Er... wrote:
They do not "do" scholarships. Why does everyone have to use the word "do" now when a more specific verb is available?!?!
award
offer
distribute
bestow
As you might be able to tell from the title, I was limited to a specific number of characters. I am with you on the degradation of our beautiful language.