Issues with Ohio high school CC and T&F

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8 years ago 08/22/2015 9:41am EDT

re: Flagpole

Flagpole wrote:
This issue doesn't bother me, and ...there are a handful of "mega" schools that have a decided advantage when it comes to team titles.
Ohio has just 3 divisions, Oh well...not everything in life is fair.

As a DIv. III OH CC coach this doesn't really bother me either. But I certainly understand the problem and I do sympathize with those who are caught in this web of unfairness.

However, I find it funny that there is all this uproar about OH when IN has NO classes for track and CC. Talk about totally unfair!!!!

How can a smaller school compete with Carmel, Ben Davis, Warren Central, etc. etc.???? That what is very unfair.

The IHSAA needs to make changes but probably won't. That is really sad for the many good runners who don't have a chance to run at state.

8 years ago 08/22/2015 10:12am EDT

re: runthecourse

Agree with your issue with Indiana. However, Ohio changed the rule they have in their bylaws for only one sport, without the vote of ADs and principals (like other changes) because of few key people got Mr. Ross's ear and he couldn't so no to his friends and against the wishes of the majority of coaches in Ohio.

8 years ago 08/22/2015 2:16pm EDT

re: buckeyer4

The OHSAA messed this one up, but you can bet they will NEVER admit they made a mistake. Good luck getting them to change.

The easiest fix was to either go back to the sectional - district format, or go back to unbalanced regionals. Having a centralized district site for all 3 divisions (as the central district does) with all divisions feeding to the same regional (the old, unbalanced regionals we had in the 90's) solves that problem as well.

They had options that had worked in the past, and they should have gone back to one of them. This was an easy fix, and they went for a solution that caused as many problems as it solved.

8 years ago 08/22/2015 3:48pm EDT

re: runthecourse

Lets stay on task - it is about Ohio not another State

8 years ago 08/23/2015 11:08am EDT

re: buckeyer4

The article said over 100 girls play football in Ohio - any other number for other States?

8 years ago 08/23/2015 5:06pm EDT

re: buckeyer4

the fact that some (few) school's boys and girls were sent to different districts was a problem. Combined enrollment remedied that problem, but caused some new problems for other schools. Teams that are not in their "natural" division due to having many more boys or girls will allow all teams and individuals to be slighted at the district level. The places that kids get at the district IS effected. For a team that means more or less points. That is a problem too.

A much better solution would be to make sure that boys and girls from the some school would compete at the same.district site even if they are NOT in the same division. Very easy to do as the District entry site (baumspage) would know which teams have only one coach, so just assign those schools to the same site... OR make sure that every district site hosts all 3 divisional races, even if one division may have to have 2 or 3 races due to more schools in a division in that area.

I know that would mean that some district site may have to "give up" their races, but it is an easy fix.

I am not real smart, but could have fixed the problem easily with the right information about each school, proposed district sites and a map of each district.

8 years ago 08/24/2015 9:22am EDT

re: it can never be totally fair

"t can never be totally fair" but they created more problems than they solved!!

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