Put a fork in Hillary...she is finished as viable candidate

You can't screw the GOVT wrote:

General Petreaus got convicted for having only confidential.

False

dkny64 wrote:

Oops - hadn't realized Bloomberg is 73. Not gonna happen.

Anyway, Biden has proven not once but twice that he's really not a good Presidential candidate. Which means the Democrats' very best plan B may be...Al Gore. Yuck.

Is Walter Mondale still alive? What about Dick Durbin?

Not a Pro wrote:

dkny64 wrote:

Oops - hadn't realized Bloomberg is 73. Not gonna happen.

Anyway, Biden has proven not once but twice that he's really not a good Presidential candidate. Which means the Democrats' very best plan B may be...Al Gore. Yuck.

You forgot Bernie Sanders.

Wow, the Democrats have an endless supply of 73-year-olds don't they.

Don't forget Shelia Jackson Lee! She would be great candidate for the Libs!

dkny64 wrote:

I'm a lifelong Democrat and there isn't a single one of the 17 declared Republican candidates I can see myself voting for, so if Hillary's the nominee, I'll vote for her, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.

Lifelong? You know even Hillary used to be a Republican when it suited her. You have more loyalty to the Democratic Party than the criminally corrupt leader you're voting for.

Liberalism = a mental disorder wrote:

dkny64 wrote:

I'm a lifelong Democrat and there isn't a single one of the 17 declared Republican candidates I can see myself voting for, so if Hillary's the nominee, I'll vote for her, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.

Lifelong? You know even Hillary used to be a Republican when it suited her. You have more loyalty to the Democratic Party than the criminally corrupt leader you're voting for.

You are forgetting that Democrats / Liberals always put the party first before the country. They don't care what happens to the country only to what happens to their party.

Not a Pro wrote:

dkny64 wrote:

Oops - hadn't realized Bloomberg is 73. Not gonna happen.

Anyway, Biden has proven not once but twice that he's really not a good Presidential candidate. Which means the Democrats' very best plan B may be...Al Gore. Yuck.

You forgot Bernie Sanders.

Don't see the money people in the Democratic party allowing Bernie Sanders [or Elizabeth Warren if she changes her mind and runs] to be the nominee. They would be ok with Biden in theory, but in practice his history of shooting himself in the foot, like, with a shotgun at close range, gives him very little chance of surviving the process.

Which brings us to...Al Gore. Still "only" 67, palatable to all major elements of the Democratic party + perhaps even exciting to people who think addressing climate change should be the nation's top priority.

Gore self-destructed when he ran in 1988 - who can forget his disastrous gastronomic walking tour of NYC with Ed Koch?* - but he did make it all the way to the finish line in 2000. Too bad he quit when he got to that finish line - still can't believe he conceded on election night 2000, then had to unconcede the next day. Maybe the Democrats should enlist Salazar for post-race appeals. No way a Salazar candidate concedes like that!

* see

if this was before your time.

Sally V wrote:

Ferty wrote:

"John Kirby, a spokesman for the State Department, said that was the case with two emails, adding that it remained unclear "whether, in fact, this material is actually classified."

"Department employees circulated these emails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011, and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton," Kirby said Tuesday. "They were not marked as classified.""

Hey - dummy - they don't need to be marked as classified! If they ARE classified they ARE classified.

If they were classifieds when she received them, then they were marked as such. This isn't rocket science.

Liberalism = a mental disorder wrote:

Even though I have been saying she won't even become the nominee, I almost want to see her in the general election debates. Can you imagine Ted Cruz or Rand Paul debating Hillary? Hillary fanatics would look like the crying Brazil fans vs. Germany!

If she gets the nomination, she won't be debating either of those two bozos.

Dwarfs what Petraeus did? How, specifically? You don't even know what the documents received by Clinton contain. Petraeus, on the other hand, gave top secret classified info to his biographer/mistress while he was director of the CIA. From the Washington Post:The FBI searched Petraeus’s house in April 2013 and found the books in an unlocked drawer in his study. The books contained top-secret information that the Justice Department said could cause “exceptionally grave damage” to national security if disclosed.That information included code words for secret intelligence programs, identities of covert officers, war strategy and deliberative discussions with the National Security Council.And, for the record, Petraeus got a slap on the wrist - a 100K fine and 2 years probation. No prison. $100K is less than one speech for him. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/petraeus-set-to-plead-guilty-to-mishandling-classified-materials/2015/04/22/3e6dbf20-e8f5-11e4-aae1-d642717d8afa_story.html

Sally V wrote:

She gave her flash drive to her attorney, David Kendall. He does not have clearance to have Top Secret Classified info. This is ludicrous.

And for the one saying all the attorneys at DOJ are Dems - maybe true but Loretta Lynch is not as political as Eric Holder. Some Dems really want the law of the land followed. What she has done dwarfs what Petraeus did and he got prison time. Plus, Valerie Jarrett doesn't like her one bit.

Smell the coffee wrote:

Liberalism = a mental disorder wrote:

Even though I have been saying she won't even become the nominee, I almost want to see her in the general election debates. Can you imagine Ted Cruz or Rand Paul debating Hillary? Hillary fanatics would look like the crying Brazil fans vs. Germany!

If she gets the nomination, she won't be debating either of those two bozos.

"Smell the coffee" indeed, because I think we're all going to need a lot of strong coffee to stay awake through debates between Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton if that's the ultimate match up. [ditto Jeb Bush - Al Gore].

Again, there are 3 levels of Classified Information:

1) Confidential - the lowest level - and what Petraeus was engaged in.

2) Secret - the 2nd highest.

3) Top Secret - the very highest of Classified Information. And when the Intel community did sampling - out of 40 emails - 2 were classified as Top Secret - 5%.

Again, It matters not ONE iota whether it was marked as classified. The substance of the email or document is all that matters. If it is deemed Top Secret later then it was ALWAYS top secret.

Also, remember that Hillary gave away U.S. uranium for Foundation donations.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

And as I pointed out, Petraeus wasn't convicted for merely "having" confidential information.

On the inside wrote:

Sally V wrote:

Hey - dummy - they don't need to be marked as classified! If they ARE classified they ARE classified.

If they were classifieds when she received them, then they were marked as such. This isn't rocket science.

By law she is to submit the emails / documents to the State Department FOR classification. They then classify them.

Who cares?

Did WWIII happen?

Move on.

stats on stats wrote:

And as I pointed out, Petraeus wasn't convicted for merely "having" confidential information.

You are correct. He got 2 years probation for sharing the classified info with his biographer

There are more than 3 levels of classified documents. And they are always marked once designated as such.

dkny64 wrote:

Smell the coffee wrote:

If she gets the nomination, she won't be debating either of those two bozos.

"Smell the coffee" indeed, because I think we're all going to need a lot of strong coffee to stay awake through debates between Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton if that's the ultimate match up. [ditto Jeb Bush - Al Gore].

True, but one of these guys will win the GOP nomination: Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Ben Carson.

Bank on it. I know the polls say otherwise, but I also told everyone several months ago that Hillary would collapse and that is clearly happening. The time has come for the GOP to nominate an actual non establishment populist conservative. Any one of them would dominate the debate.