At what age do women start appreciating guys for more than whether they are "fun" or not?

busting my arse wrote:

Guy O'Leighken wrote:

I'll bet some people got the mistaken impression that you're not a good listener from your comment:

So according to you and others here, the only way to be a good listener and/or in a relationship is to sit quietly for 2+ hours every single night as your s/o talks non-stop about nothing significant 99% of the time.

LOL. You're an idiot. Try to read/listen better next time.

busting my arse wrote:

Guy O'Leighken wrote:

I'll bet some people got the mistaken impression that you're not a good listener from your comment:

"My issue is that even when I explain the above to girls, they still think I should be spending hours every single day with them just doing such trivial things as listening to them gab for literally hours."

So according to you and others here, the only way to be a good listener and/or in a relationship is to sit quietly for 2+ hours every single night as your s/o talks non-stop about nothing significant 99% of the time. You've disqualified yourself from being taken seriously and have proven yourself to be a loser. No successful or interesting person would waste so much time doing something so meaningless, and that goes for guys and girls. Apparently you've never been with anyone who isn't an airhead.

Sorry to ask, but are you trolling? If you are, 10/10.

"You've disqualified yourself from being taken seriously and have proven yourself to be a loser."

So much for being a good listener...

busting my arse wrote:

No successful or interesting person would waste so much time doing something so meaningless, and that goes for guys and girls. Apparently you've never been with anyone who isn't an airhead.

Posted the person who has probably dismissed a large number of interesting people because they aren't as interesting as himself.

Are they going to be interested in you talking about how awesome you are at your awesome opportunity blindly chasing that carrot at the end of the stick? No.

Save those pennies they are throwing you because that's likely all you'll have to show for years of dedication to chasing that carrot.

You go Captain Achiever. Enjoy achieving with your achieving buddies while you talk in parallel to your achieving buddies about achieving.

runDirtyrun wrote:

busting my arse wrote:

No successful or interesting person would waste so much time doing something so meaningless, and that goes for guys and girls. Apparently you've never been with anyone who isn't an airhead.

Posted the person who has probably dismissed a large number of interesting people because they aren't as interesting as himself.

Are they going to be interested in you talking about how awesome you are at your awesome opportunity blindly chasing that carrot at the end of the stick? No.

Save those pennies they are throwing you because that's likely all you'll have to show for years of dedication to chasing that carrot.

You go Captain Achiever. Enjoy achieving with your achieving buddies while you talk in parallel to your achieving buddies about achieving.

You repeatedly describe goals as a carrot at the end of a stick. Good luck in life, man. Please don't ever become a coach, teacher, or father.

busting my arse wrote:

You repeatedly describe goals as a carrot at the end of a stick. Good luck in life, man. Please don't ever become a coach, teacher, or father.

Maybe I should aspire to be you? Oh, that would mean I would have been divorced over a decade ago and my kid a total stranger because according to you both prattle on about meaningless things that aren't interesting because they aren't about winning or you.

In 10 words or less, why would any woman want to spend more than a night with you? Sell it to the LRC.

Whatever the age Mike Rossi's wife married him, that's what you are shooting for.

I'm Not exactly sure why you expect women to appreciate you at all.

runDirtyrun wrote:

busting my arse wrote:

You repeatedly describe goals as a carrot at the end of a stick. Good luck in life, man. Please don't ever become a coach, teacher, or father.

Maybe I should aspire to be you? Oh, that would mean I would have been divorced over a decade ago and my kid a total stranger because according to you both prattle on about meaningless things that aren't interesting because they aren't about winning or you.

In 10 words or less, why would any woman want to spend more than a night with you? Sell it to the LRC.

I'm betting you're average at pretty much everything you do. Some people aspire to more than that. I don't expect people like you to understand. Hopefully your kid finds a real role model.

Ah, another letsrun relationship thread. Love these.

I only read the first page of this thread, but OP, you seem to think that you are better than people. That is one of the your problems.

The problems that we have with others, usually the source is within ourselves. Try to accept and fix what bothers you about yourself, and then work on how you relate to others.

busting my arse wrote:

runDirtyrun wrote:

Maybe I should aspire to be you? Oh, that would mean I would have been divorced over a decade ago and my kid a total stranger because according to you both prattle on about meaningless things that aren't interesting because they aren't about winning or you.

In 10 words or less, why would any woman want to spend more than a night with you? Sell it to the LRC.

I'm betting you're average at pretty much everything you do. Some people aspire to more than that. I don't expect people like you to understand. Hopefully your kid finds a real role model.

Since you don't have a clue, I'll spot you 20 words to explain why any woman would want to spend more than 1 night with you. Need 30 words? Take it.

You are an achiever after all. C'mon tough guy. You started this thread. Win it like you achieve your other goals.

vivalarepublica wrote:

I only read the first page of this thread, but OP, you seem to think that you are better than people. That is one of the your problems.

The problems that we have with others, usually the source is within ourselves. Try to accept and fix what bothers you about yourself, and then work on how you relate to others.

OP has no room for doubt. He's another boiler room achiever. He's awesome. Girls? You? Me? Average at best, mostly wrong.

Yet he cannot figure out why he's a total failure in LTR.

You're describing most people. They want to be sexy without diet and exercise. They want to be rich without working and saving. They want to be fast without training.

busting my arse wrote:

runDirtyrun wrote:

Maybe I should aspire to be you? Oh, that would mean I would have been divorced over a decade ago and my kid a total stranger because according to you both prattle on about meaningless things that aren't interesting because they aren't about winning or you.

In 10 words or less, why would any woman want to spend more than a night with you? Sell it to the LRC.

I'm betting you're average at pretty much everything you do. Some people aspire to more than that. I don't expect people like you to understand. Hopefully your kid finds a real role model.

Maybe you just aren't very attractive?

Women are outpacing men in the world. They are more responsible, work harder and get better results. If you don't believe this, go to the nearest Starbucks and see the number of women studying compared to the number of men studying. There's a high bar if you're trying to impress a modern woman with your resume virtues.

And having a good resume is a necessary but not sufficient condition. Whatever your status is in the career world, if the woman is at least somewhat attractive then she knows dozens of guys with equal or greater status than you. You're not impressing her by saying that you make $70k as an engineer at Boeing or whatever. She can join an online dating site and get bombarded with 100+ messages from Boeing engineers. Men with decent status are a dime a dozen.

Yes, you need to be a guy who is fun, but let's be sure we know what we mean by that.

In the dating world, men are the entertainers and women are the entertainees. Your role as the entertainer is to have a vibrant life that you involve her in. Lots of guys go broke by playing this role. Seriously, all women wanted to be treated like a princess, though few will admit it.

A perfect example of something a woman your age would love to be invited to would be a company party if your company throws cool parties and allows significant others to come. Reasons why a woman would love it:

* She gets to dress up and look pretty.

* You giving her exclusive access to an event makes her feel special.

* It shows that you're outgoing; she gets to see how you mingle with people.

In addition, you need to be sufficiently good looking. If you can pass the "cute" test, that's usually good enough. There are few guys who women feel raw sexual attraction to. All you need is to be someone she would not be grossed out by kissing her or copulating with her.

As a rule, women are, ultimately, after the top 1% of men but the attractive ones will nevertheless settle for the top 75-85% for temporary relationships and Plan Bs. There are so many deadbeat or extremely ugly males that it shouldn't be too hard to be in the 75th percentile if you go for a shotgun strategy of pursuing women you're attracted to.

vivalarepublica wrote:

I only read the first page of this thread, but OP, you seem to think that you are better than people. .

You needed to read the thread to figure that out? You must be new to this forum. Everyone here has an outward superiority complex to try and mask their inner inferiority complex.

Probably age 31

jamin wrote:

Women are outpacing men in the world. They are more responsible, work harder and get better results. If you don't believe this, go to the nearest Starbucks and see the number of women studying compared to the number of men studying. There's a high bar if you're trying to impress a modern woman with your resume virtues.

Women who waste their reproductive years aren't intelligent. The smart ones marry young and have children. The less than bright ones get "educated" mostly in worthless degrees in an era where college is a trap.