Yea those criminals and terrorists would abide by the law and all the violence would end !!
Yea those criminals and terrorists would abide by the law and all the violence would end !!
Really ?? wrote:
Yea those criminals and terrorists would abide by the law and all the violence would end !!
I agree. Afterall, they have never been known to use things like IEDs and car bombs. I'm sure banning guns would also solve that dilemma as well!
Heck, I bet they wouldn't even consider getting a knife and chopping someone's head off.
You're either a troll or a complete and utter idiot. Your Iq is too low for voting or procreation. Please avoid these activities.
The killer's family is from Nablus in the occupied West Bank. A city where there are few rights for ordinary every day people
eh, guns shouldn't be banned to reduce violence (though it would reduce it), guns should be banned because they're immoral.
Endless TIT-FOR-TAT wrote:
The killer's family is from Nablus in the occupied West Bank. A city where there are few rights for ordinary every day people
Ah. When I saw the news, I figured the shooter was stick with eharmony.
They lived in and were citizens of the United States. There children were given college educations and they had good lives. Stop with trying to blame the USA.
Endless TIT-FOR-TAT wrote:
The killer's family is from Nablus in the occupied West Bank. A city where there are few rights for ordinary every day people
I'd be pissed too if Eugene was taken over by foreigners.
Had the shooter attacked the Marines with a knife instead, the Marines would all be alive now. Really.
Yea because criminals and terrorist would not buy weapons from the underground market. They would simply buy a knife !!!
You are brilliant !
Nah, not as brilliant as you.
Law abiding citizens can purchase a gun anytime and then shoot a bunch of people next month; that's fine as long as they are neither "criminal nor terrorist" at the time of purchase. Brilliant, ostrich!
Bingo!!!!! wrote:
Nah, not as brilliant as you.
Law abiding citizens can purchase a gun anytime and then shoot a bunch of people next month; that's fine as long as they are neither "criminal nor terrorist" at the time of purchase. Brilliant, ostrich!
Are you kidding with Obama's police murdering black men every day?
Jonathan Sanders, an Unarmed Black Man choked to death by Mississippi police:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/15/jonathan-sanders-mississppi-chokeholddouglas burke wrote:
Also anyone using ANTI American rhetoric which includes promoting communism, should be asked what country they want to go to, give them a 1 way ticket and a mandatory minimum 30 year sentence if they ever step foot on USA soil again.
And presumably you get to decide what qualifies as 'anti American rhetoric'? Have you read the constitution? Why do you hate it? Pick your country and head on out, because you have just denounced the first amendment. John Hancock is rolling in his grave.
Marines are tortured junkyard dogs who no longer 'the fit into American society. The DOD should keep marines on separate bases at least 100 MI away from the standard four branch bases.
DiscoGary wrote:
Let's see how this works. A white guy who has a picture of himself with a confederate flag shoots a bunch of people and the country reacts by effectively banning the confederate flag and purging every reference to the confederacy throughout the country. Anyone who shows any sympathy for the South or the confederate flag is attacked viciously. That's no exaggeration either.
So a Muslim shoots up a bunch of people. Shouldn't we ban all Mosques, the Koran, and scrub every reference to Islam from our society? Shouldn't we viciously attack anyone who shows any sympathy for Islam or Muslims?
One thing's for sure Islam is responsible for a hell of a lot more killing these days than the confederate flag. If we're going to wield the ban hammer, then let's use it where it can do some good.
So-- the confederate flag wasn't "banned." It is getting removed from state flags and the like, and private citizens and corporations are excersing their rights to refuse to sell/distribute it.
To to the best of my knowledge, there is no Islamic symbology on any state flag. There is thus no need to have it removed.
Also, I'm pretty sure that private citizens and corporations are excersing their rights refuse to sell/distribute Islamic symbology.
When your state flag has, e.g., a star and crescent, then you have the right to get upset.
sc42 wrote:
douglas burke wrote:Also anyone using ANTI American rhetoric which includes promoting communism, should be asked what country they want to go to, give them a 1 way ticket and a mandatory minimum 30 year sentence if they ever step foot on USA soil again.
And presumably you get to decide what qualifies as 'anti American rhetoric'? Have you read the constitution? Why do you hate it? Pick your country and head on out, because you have just denounced the first amendment. John Hancock is rolling in his grave.
+1
oldold runner wrote:
Rest in peace my fellow Marines.
One of the saner comments.
The availability of guns is a red herring.
The real issue is the incredibility stupid American immigration policy.
As it is right now, a teenage Mexican drug dealer with a limited education has more chance of becoming an American citizen than a British neurosurgeon or a German engineer.
But it is with Muslim immigration that it is at it most deviant and baffling.
Just by viewing what happened in Europe with the mass intake of Muslim immigrants should have been a warning signal never to go down that same route.
Apart from the fact we have to be constantly vigilant 24/7 about terrorist outrages, we face other outrages like that for years now, Muslim rape gangs in Britain have operated with impunity, preying upon non-Muslim girls while terrified authorities stood by and did nothing, for fear of being accused of “racism.”
Take Sweden as another example - forty years ago, the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the formerly homogenous Sweden into a multicultural country.
And the main increase in population came from Islamic countries.
What happened?
Well, violent crime alone has increased by 300% and rapes by 1,472%.
The once peaceful and safe Sweden is now high up on the list of countries where rape is widespread and it can only get worse as they start demanding the introduction of Sharia law.
Apart from Muslim immigration, other US immigration policies are equally puzzling.
In 1970, there were almost no Nigerian immigrants in the United States.
Now your country is home to more Nigerians than any country in the world except Nigeria.
I sailed in and out of Nigerian ports some years back and never found a single Nigerian I would trust and they cheerfully admitted they were dishonest, but corruption and fraud was a way of life.
What advantage could the USA possibly gain by allowing millions of Nigerians to enter?
And as for your open borders to the south - those who’s ancestry were responsible for fashioning the super-power that post WW2 briefly inherited the mantle of the British Empire, will be a minority in their own country by about 2050 with the resulting disastrous consequences.
Binks wrote:
oldold runner wrote:Rest in peace my fellow Marines.
One of the saner comments.
The availability of guns is a red herring.
The real issue is the incredibility stupid American immigration policy.
As it is right now, a teenage Mexican drug dealer with a limited education has more chance of becoming an American citizen than a British neurosurgeon or a German engineer.
But it is with Muslim immigration that it is at it most deviant and baffling.
Just by viewing what happened in Europe with the mass intake of Muslim immigrants should have been a warning signal never to go down that same route.
Apart from the fact we have to be constantly vigilant 24/7 about terrorist outrages, we face other outrages like that for years now, Muslim rape gangs in Britain have operated with impunity, preying upon non-Muslim girls while terrified authorities stood by and did nothing, for fear of being accused of “racism.”
Take Sweden as another example - forty years ago, the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the formerly homogenous Sweden into a multicultural country.
And the main increase in population came from Islamic countries.
What happened?
Well, violent crime alone has increased by 300% and rapes by 1,472%.
The once peaceful and safe Sweden is now high up on the list of countries where rape is widespread and it can only get worse as they start demanding the introduction of Sharia law.
Apart from Muslim immigration, other US immigration policies are equally puzzling.
In 1970, there were almost no Nigerian immigrants in the United States.
Now your country is home to more Nigerians than any country in the world except Nigeria.
I sailed in and out of Nigerian ports some years back and never found a single Nigerian I would trust and they cheerfully admitted they were dishonest, but corruption and fraud was a way of life.
What advantage could the USA possibly gain by allowing millions of Nigerians to enter?
And as for your open borders to the south - those who’s ancestry were responsible for fashioning the super-power that post WW2 briefly inherited the mantle of the British Empire, will be a minority in their own country by about 2050 with the resulting disastrous consequences.
Perhaps we should stop immigration for at least a little while as we did from 1925-1965, and let the immigrants assimilate into the American culture, in America it takes 3-4 generations for immigrants to be successful, in 3-4 generations assimilation will take place almost all of the Muslims will have converted to Christianity, everyone will be speaking 1 language English, examples of this are Americans of Italian, German, Irish etc. over 95% can only speak English, in 3-4 generations most immigrants regardless if they are of Mexican, Nigerian descent will only speak English as the language of their ancestors will be of little use in the USA.
The 1965 immigration/Hart Cellar act was one of the best things that happened in fact Australia, Canada and Europe adopted similar immigration policies because of how well it worked in the USA.
The drawback is an extremely few isolated and tragic incidents as happened in Chattanooga yesterday, and I believe a slowdown if not temporary stoppage as we had from 1925-1965 is good so it gives people time to assimilate, example if immigration from Mexico continues at the rate it is, the Spanish language would continue to be used, and history shows having the same language holds a country together, Mexicans are a great asset as they have Christian values and work ethic and with work ethic they can improve academically and live the American dream.
With a slowdown of immigration to allow new immigrants to adapt to the American culture so everybody will speak 1 language (English) for the most part (although if people want to learn other languages that is fine), have one religion (Christian) though of course we will still have some Jewish, Muslims, athiest's etc. All the people will have for the most part the same morals, ethics, principles, manners, customs etc.
People will still keep some of their ethnic identity by for example while most Italians in the USA only speak English, they still have Italian Restaurants, hopefully there will still be Mexican, Chinese etc. restaurants long after they have forgotten the language of their ancestors country.
I fear if there are no limits to immigration we could someday become what President Theodore Roosevelt called a nation of squabbling nationalities, although I really think our leaders are too smart to let that happen.
The Hart-Cellar/Immigration Act is great and 95% of Americans agree diversity is our greatest strength, but in moderation, like most people like ice cream, but too much is bad.
It's all about spin. Were a dispurpotionate number of the victims black? Then you could spin it as a racist attack, then the media would spark this thing up and start a rally. Were any of the victims homosexual? That too would get the mainstream media up in arms.
If these guys were straight, white marines, well.. too bad for you guys.
