Holy Crap! Salazar to be investigated by the FBI....

DC Wonk wrote:

If Salazar/Rupp/Farah go down (I assume Centro as well), so will the state of US distance running...If we had small chance of medals in Rio next year, we will then have zero chance.

Also, anyone who thinks Gatlin is clean is deluded -- that shoe will definitely fall before Rio comes around.

It's just laughable though, that people get all crazy about the possible use of enhancers, when this is really the norm for most major pro sports (golf and bowling inlcuded!). The train has left the station and it's not coming back.

I think coburn, jenny and Jager, all have a chance at medaling this year and in 2016, its not just the ORPJT

Don't forget that Salazar claims to have friends in the FBI who helped Mo Farah get across the border when he was returning with his two Olympic golds."...Salazar intervened and called upon a friend at the FBI – a massive running fan – and he solved the issue."http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/9771503/Mo-Farah-held-by-US-customs-on-suspicion-of-being-a-terrorist-as-he-returned-to-family-home-for-Christmas.html

Nike Oregon Prison wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-3111567/Anti-doping-chief-calls-FBI-probe-Mo-Farah-coach-Alberto-Salazar.html

Expect NOP supporters to accuse the FBI of being on a witch hunt.

Is Alberto Salazar a criminal? I don't think so, folks.

Naaah, he's no more a criminal than any other guy who doesn't know enough about how to do his day job to make big money at it, yet he wants big money, so he figures out a way to steal a few hundred multi-millionaires' PINs and then drains a measly 5 dollars from each of their bank accounts every month. Five bucks? From rich people? Come on. Who does it really hurt? You just know every last one of those rich people is a filthy, greedy, lying cheat too. Nobody that has that much money can possibly have earned it only through planning, hard work, saving and re-investing at their own risk, right? Let's just let a guy like that slide. He can't affect YOU ... unless, of course, you think he really is successful due to his own abilities and you start asking for ADVICE on how he does that day job that he's NOT ANY DAMN GOOD AT. Then you - and everybody you try to help - are getting hosed.

Simpson is the best thing US distance running has going now. She's clean (I believe, anyway) and is all about hard work and winning. Coburn, Jager, Blankenship, Desi, Shalane, even Ryan Hall, all clean athletes who can be admired. But Jenny is the best chance for gold.

Rupp was never going to win at World's or the Olympics anyway, whether 10,000m or the marathon, doped or clean. He's good, just not good enough. Let's hope some of the up and coming high school talent stays with it, stays clean, and doesn't burn out. Another German Fernandez, but keep it going for 10+ years after HS.

Fhjhh wrote:

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And Lol at the Brits with their head in the sand on Farah.

I supposed you missed the chart comparing Mo's performances before and after joining NOP? And quoting Andy Vernon, who gets in twitter arguments with Mo?

Save yourself Galen wrote:

Rupp will definitely crack and turn on Salazar. He has a family to protect. He cannot do that from prison, and it's not likely he could survive even a Sheridan Federal Prison minimum security.

What prison? Doping is not a crime in the U.S. It's almost impossible to get a criminal conviction for supplying.

If it were possible to easily prosecute doping, the NCAA and USOC would absolutely panic after fighting to prevent any kind of criminalization at all.

RIPSammy wrote:

Rule No.1 wrote:

Rule No.1 of journalism, never ruin a good headline with the truth. The brojos aren't pushing it, someone posted it.

What?? Rule number one of journalism is to report the unbiased truth....

Haha. That no one reads. Headlines matter more than the story.

USATF completely silent their #1 customer is running a doping program.

It seems to me an organization in charge of preventing doping taking money from an organization that embraces doping is a multifaceted problem they are doing nothing about. Seems legit.

I really feel sorry for the clean athletes at the elite level.

Stephanie Hightower, what say you? Hmm? What's that? Too busy now?

Farah and Rupp in prison would have to do a Stir Crazy routine to avoid being made into Oreo Cookies....

He has "friends" wrote:

Don't forget that Salazar claims to have friends in the FBI who helped Mo Farah get across the border when he was returning with his two Olympic golds.

"...Salazar intervened and called upon a friend at the FBI – a massive running fan – and he solved the issue."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/9771503/Mo-Farah-held-by-US-customs-on-suspicion-of-being-a-terrorist-as-he-returned-to-family-home-for-Christmas.html

This only proves how delusional Mo is. He is a gold medalist--gosh-darn-it. Mo's problem is that he was spending a lot of time in questionable countries.

That's nothing... wrote:

This only proves how delusional Mo is. He is a gold medalist--gosh-darn-it. Mo's problem is that he was spending a lot of time in questionable countries.

Eritrea won independence in 1991 and the borders have been internationally recognized since 1993. Hardly questionable countries.

Rupp vs. the FBI...

http://i.imgur.com/aEMoSlz.png

If all of the allegations in the "report" are true, which of Rupp's transgressions would warrant a prison sentence? The rules of a sport aren't law.

I can't think of any for Rupp. Unless NOP somehow received governmental support. Then possibly there could be an FCA (False Claims Act) action against NOP similar to the one against Lance Armstrong related to the USPS cycling team. FCA actions can be civil or criminal.

I was thinking about other possible charges. Perhaps distributing meds without a license? Maybe racketeering charges for some of the messy stuff at the olympic trials and USATF champs? It all depends on the underlying facts, which none of us can be sure of.

R2D3 wrote:

That's nothing... wrote:

This only proves how delusional Mo is. He is a gold medalist--gosh-darn-it. Mo's problem is that he was spending a lot of time in questionable countries.

Eritrea won independence in 1991 and the borders have been internationally recognized since 1993. Hardly questionable countries.

You should get out of your mom's basement and travel outside the U.S. some day.

Dwayne wrote:

I have long found it curious about the amount of silence from the highest levels of the British athletics community with regard to Mo Farah. Supposedly the greatest distance name in years to come out of UK, you would expect the profiles names to be swinging his name from the rafters at every opportunity. Yet Coe, Cram, etc, hardly ever refer to him. Not as often as one would expect, at least. My feeling is that they decided a while back not to create such a close personal tie to Farah's name in order to avoid being dragged into any future scandal. I think their silence speaks of an unspoken suspicion.

Or it could be that he was born in Somalia, is black and Islamic. Not exactly something most Brits would relate to.

darkwave wrote:

If all of the allegations in the "report" are true, which of Rupp's transgressions would warrant a prison sentence? The rules of a sport aren't law.

I can't think of any for Rupp. Unless NOP somehow received governmental support. Then possibly there could be an FCA (False Claims Act) action against NOP similar to the one against Lance Armstrong related to the USPS cycling team. FCA actions can be civil or criminal.

I was thinking about other possible charges. Perhaps distributing meds without a license? Maybe racketeering charges for some of the messy stuff at the olympic trials and USATF champs? It all depends on the underlying facts, which none of us can be sure of.

Secret banks accounts used to pay for inappropriately, or illegally, obtained drugs would be a huge red flag. That is the most likely way a non-licensed person would pay for the drug, and possibly pay for them in cash from account withdraws. Paying cash is not a way out once the FBI reviews bank records, and cross-checks to see where the funds went.

stater of the obvious wrote:

Or it could be that he was born in Somalia, is black and Islamic. Not exactly something most Brits would relate to.

Mo also entered the UK illegally. That is not something most Brits would relate to.

Seth and Evan wrote:

Save yourself Galen wrote:

He cannot do that from prison, and it's not likely he could survive even a Sheridan Federal Prison minimum security.

He would be tossed around like currency.

^^^^ post of this week. You guys made my Friday. I may be fired for laughing so hard in my cube.

wat.

I have no idea if Al Sal is guilty of anything at all, but how come last year any time I post any questions about his training methods and the possibility of borderline legal methods, my posts were promptly deleted?

Guess there is too much chatter now for mods to delete everything.

hypocritical!