How fast could Ryan Hall run a mile?

I can usually run within 20-30 seconds of my mile PR if I've put in at least SOME training and not necessarily mile-specific training. So I'd say somewhere between 4:20-4:30 right now.

ttc wrote:

He had years of mile training at Stanford. Never close to 3:55 or the equivalent. Sure, he was stronger in 2009-10. But still.

This is it right here. He thought it was a miler, but wasn't getting any faster after several years at Stanford focusing on the 1500. He ran his first track 5K in around 13:45 junior year and figured out he wasn't a 1500m runner. I always though it was odd he jumped up to the marathon so quickly without spending a few years as a 5/10K guy first.

Even with specific training, I can't see him going under 4:05 now after years of marathon pace. When healthy and marathon fit, 4:15 seems reasonable.

Give him 6 months and 4:15. He's not big on pain and feeling uncomfortable

e2 wrote:

This is it right here. He thought it was a miler, but wasn't getting any faster after several years at Stanford focusing on the 1500. He ran his first track 5K in around 13:45 junior year and figured out he wasn't a 1500m runner. I always though it was odd he jumped up to the marathon so quickly without spending a few years as a 5/10K guy first.

Even with specific training, I can't see him going under 4:05 now after years of marathon pace. When healthy and marathon fit, 4:15 seems reasonable.

No that's not it right there. He was injured his first two years at Stanford. Something is obviously wrong if you don't improve your times after 2 years. Has nothing to do with being a miler or not. You are what you train for.

You are not what u train for. Ryan Hall will never, at any age, be Nick Willis, Centro, Manzano, etc. It just isn't happening. in the same light they won't ever run 2:04.

He always ran high mileage because his body used to be able to handle it. He ran 4:01 in HS because he had incredible endurance, but likely does not have the raw speed to improve to run a 3:50. I think he did run ~3:39 1500 in college. When he moved up to the 5k, he ended up an NCAA Champ pretty quickly. Moves up to 12k cross and wins USA. Moves up to Half Marathon and shatters the AR and puts himself level with the best in the world. Moves up to Marathon and runs 2:08:24 in first try. Why wouldn't he keep running the marathon. He is far more competitive on a global scale there. His natural draw to mileage and altitude landed him in Mammoth where Mahon and MTC had the same focus. His big problem has been that he completely moved away from any race shorter than the Half and any of the associated training for those events. Speed is something you have to work, just like endurance. Sure he does amazing long tempo/MP runs, but if you never work the mile speed, you are always closer to the max speed on those long efforts. And changing gears in a race becomes impossible.

e2 wrote:

ttc wrote:

He had years of mile training at Stanford. Never close to 3:55 or the equivalent. Sure, he was stronger in 2009-10. But still.

This is it right here. He thought it was a miler, but wasn't getting any faster after several years at Stanford focusing on the 1500. He ran his first track 5K in around 13:45 junior year and figured out he wasn't a 1500m runner. I always though it was odd he jumped up to the marathon so quickly without spending a few years as a 5/10K guy first.

Even with specific training, I can't see him going under 4:05 now after years of marathon pace. When healthy and marathon fit, 4:15 seems reasonable.

So right, when the fastest training you do is at marathon pace that starts feeling fast. When he first moved to the marathon the pace seemed slow becuase he was doing 5,000m training. I recall reading about him and Dobson doing mile repeats at 4:14 pace while at Stanford when they both ran around 13:15. Once he left Mahon he didn't want to do anything too fast or too hard and he started getting slower and slower.

I have no doubt he would run sub 4 if he bothered.It wouldn't be big news if he did it.I have seen lesser athletes than him do it.

Neutral Observertard wrote:

RancidCupNoodle wrote:

He's America's best hope in the marathon! Go Ryan he could def run 3:55 if he stopped believing in God crap.

Who was the last atheist who broke a WR or won a medal in anything above 400m?

Yuriy Borzakovskiy

Buriy Yorzakovskiy wrote:

Neutral Observertard wrote:

Who was the last atheist who broke a WR or won a medal in anything above 400m?

Yuriy Borzakovskiy

Nope, he has an Orthodox-looking cross necklace. Try again!

DNF

Danv y'all got no faith in my boy

Hall ran 3:42 .x in HS 1:51 and sub 9

He certainly did not do years of mile training at Stanford, abandoned that quickly and left with 13:16 for 5K

Never ran a meaningful mile 3K or 10K , never ran sub 7:50 for 3K or sub 28 for 10K

I said he left the underside way to early ,many disagreed with me.

Ryan Hall could run amazing threshold stuff from HS through college, almost anyone that followed him knew this, so when he went to marathon completely skipped over the 10K everyone thought that was in the cards.

Completely ignored every underside distance for over ten years

My guess would be way off. wrote:

Like I said, my guess would probably be way off, I have no idea.

What do you think he could run with 4 months to train for it?

What do you think he could run within the week?

With his "coach" and attitude, he would DNF and start pulling out the excuses.

That made my day. Thanks for the laugh

asdfadsfsdf wrote:

I think he'd at least make it to 1200m.

Anyone who thinks he can run sub 4:20 within the week is just being ignorant.

Anyone who thinks he can run sub 4:20 within the week is just being ignorant.

Anyone who thinks he can run sub 4:20 within the week is just being ignorant.

He was obviously emphasizing the "oozer" sound with an additional "o." Although to be fair he should have used at least three o's...