Anyone else disgusted by officiating in NCAA final tonight?

I didn't have much of a problem with the officiating. There are bad/missed calls in every game. But I could not stand the acting jobs of the Duke players. A little shove from a Wisconsin player, and the Duke player would look like he just took a stiff hook in a boxing match. It was disgraceful, but those guys certainly will be ready for professional acting in the NBA.

I would like some of you duke haters to point out exactly which fouls were called on wisconsin in the second half that were not actually fouls.

Because I will point you to okafors third which was all ball and the blatant travel (not a foul) that decker had when he made that spin move to the basket that were calls that went wisconsins way that should not have.

Who won?

17 fouls shots for Duke in the 2nd half, 3 for Wisconsin, yeah, calls with both ways..... Granted this makes sense as Wisconsin led by 9 and that's when you usually start fouling....what?

Keep rationalizing, it doesn't make you sound very intelligent.

Dial it up wrote:

usoundstupid wrote:

The odds are actually quite good. Given a per game average of 12.5 and only 2 entering the second half, there was a significant likelihood of a sustantial increase in the second half. One must also consider that Duke is a significantly better team than Wisonsin's average opponent which also suggests the game average would be above 12.5.

If you flip a coin and it is heads three times in a row.....that does not mean that the next flip is likely to be tails.

You are correct, but your point is irrelevant to the discussion.

WWRD wrote:

17 fouls shots for Duke in the 2nd half, 3 for Wisconsin, yeah, calls with both ways..... Granted this makes sense as Wisconsin led by 9 and that's when you usually start fouling....what?

Keep rationalizing, it doesn't make you sound very intelligent.

Point out some fouls that were called on wisconsin that weren't actually fouls. All you keep doing is pulling out numbers.

That's Great! Thanks for posting!

Former UW Alumni here who was pulling for them to win and honestly I'm disappointed, but blaming the loss on the refs is just sad. Duke was in foul trouble right off the bat in that game and had to sit there two best players a majority of the second half and a good portion of the 1st half. Some of the calls seemed legit on Okafor but at least two he got ball. These players were never able to get into a rhythm which makes sense as they were riding the pine.

UW should have taken advantage inside without Okafor and Winslow in the game but they didn't. Additionally the foul trouble caused Duke to play zone and UW to get some easy 2nd chance buckets.

Clearly the out of bounds play where winslow stepped on the line was missed but refs miss that call all the time. That is why people like basketball because you can only review at certain times...that's the game. What it sounds like people wants is a review on each play and foul. Also Kaminsky's foul on Okafor at the end was intentional but not called that way, good for Wisconsin.

Anyway lets not let our homerisome taint what was a brilliant final game.

And before anyone corrects me, please remove former from the 1st sentence in the above post.

I was rooting hard for Wisconsin last night. The refs did seem to tighten up the calls in the second half, but there were very, very few bad calls. The tighter calls helped Duke because Duke's guards were much better at driving and creating advantages. The one foul that I thought was a bad call was the block on Dukan (?) when he had good position and Winslow swung his elbow (while holding the ball) right into him and barreled into him. I thought that was a player control foul on Winslow. There were other questionable calls/no-calls both ways, but again, very, very few bad calls, imo. Duke was better. Tyus Jones was sick. Tough loss for the Badgers.

I wasn't pulling for either team all that much, but to say that there were very, very few bad calls is just crazy. It would have been a good game, but the zebras really ruined it for me and everyone I've spoken to about it.

I didn't have time for that. I had to watch a thing realer on USA....Monday Night Raw

peter d wrote:

Just like the Wisconsin vs Kentucky game, the calls went Wisconsin's way in the first half & the opponents way the second half. I didn't agree with officiating in both games, but it evened out. NCAA basketball, along with NFL is definitely rigged. It's getting to be as obvious as soccer. Of course with all the viewership involved, what do you expect.

Some of you must never watch dook* play. Ratface's stratergy is to foul so much (grab, handcheck, illiegal screens, etc) that the refs can't call it all. Every fan in the ACC hates them.

WWRD wrote:

I didn't care who won when the game started. I would have given my first born to have Wisconsin win by the time the game ended. As soon as Wisconsin took control the whistle started blowing for Duke, of control drives, plays they initiate contact on, clean blocks, all fouls. 2 out of bounds plays, one they reviewed and didn't overturn. One I think TV accidentally showed the replay on.

Wow.

Yes, all of the blown calls clearly changed the outcome of this game.

The out-of-bounds play that TV seemed to hide was when Okafor was driving to the basket. He stepped on the end line right in front of the ref, then got fouled by Kaminsky, while making the shot. A very quick replay showed Okafor clearly stepped out of bounds, but the TV announcers didn't seem to want to discuss it.

Also, the foul where the Duke player steamrolled Kiminsky, who was just standing there. That was ridiculous.

The NCAA needs to get refs who call unbiased games regardless of who is coaching.

How about the third foul on okafor which was clearly all ball. Duke being without its best player for a huge chunk of the second half didn't impact the game at all?

I think it may be time to audit some ref bank accounts.

mellow seeds wrote:

Duke being without its best player for a huge chunk of the second half didn't impact the game at all?

That means Okafor is vastly over-rated.

Ova Rated wrote:

mellow seeds wrote:

Duke being without its best player for a huge chunk of the second half didn't impact the game at all?

That means Okafor is vastly over-rated.

You are obviously one of those "I watch the tournament" types.

There at least 5 calls in second half that ended up in Duke points that were poor.

-Both the cited out of bounds calls,

-Jones on drive mid-point second half where he took it into the lane completely out of control. (he played great btw).

- At least two drives by the white kid where he jumped into (the Wisconsin guy kept hands straight up and slid in his line), when Wisc didn't get those calls on drives on the other end (including a play Kuenik scored on where he got banged pretty good), further the didn't make these calls in the first half (correctly), so they CHANGED the way they officiated mid game, which is the worst freaking thing you can do.

I didn't even try and came up with those.

Duke shot 16 fouls shots in the second half to 3, and maintained possession and scored twice when replays showed they shouldn't.

Officiating was poor the whole tourney, but in the second half of this game it got one sided poor really quick. Last nights game was not played on an even playing field.

Lastly, of course there were other factors, but again the refs shouldn't have been such a one sided factor, they consistently error-ed on the side of one team, and it's clear to anyone not a Duke fan or who knows basketball.

And I didn't look up the spelling above...