Great Oak already has SEVEN girls under 11 minutes

You must have been asleep for years. Development happens.

Location, location, location wrote:

Also, since when are Saugus and Temecula affluent areas?

They are both upper-middle class white suburban areas. That's the demograhic you want. Not uber-rich Bel-Air or some desert white trash area.

Where is your proof that Destiny has a bad attitude? Also that is a very racist remark to make...

#'s dont lie wrote:

College coaches are in the know... No major D1 program will touch a GO girl... They are shot out by the time they get to college... and why no older kids? They are broken or injured... So sad will be interesting to see how Destiny comes back the kid had talent... A bad attitude but talent none the less... Keep drinking the Kool Aid GO

someone say it wrote:

They'll all be broke down, burnt out, and ridden with stress fractures by the time they get out of that program. But by all means, keep pounding out those 90 mile weeks Great Oak girls!!!

Where do these suggestions of 90 mile weeks come from? Do you actually have any idea what their weekly mileage is or are you just randomly making up numbers? From what I've heard it is a lot lower than that.

What does that guys statement have to do with being raciest? Lets play that card you dork! The fact of the mater is that DC kid does seem to have a bad attitude!

Here is what I know. Double days are against CIF rules unless there is a class. So Great Oak has a class. They run doubles. They have a ton of kids. They run the shit out of them. The top become great, others get injured or quit.

I have no problem with any of this.

Destiny posts info about her training on her tumblr. Seems like she runs 60ish miles per week 6 days per week. Not unreasonable for a high level HS runner, especially when split into two a days.

Doubles are not against CIF you ass hat.

A. All teams will be allowed no more than eighteen (18) hours of practice time per week and no more than four (4) hours in any

single day.   

(1) Multiple Practice Sessions:  

a. Double day practices shall not be held on consecutive days.  

b. Must include a minimum of three (3) hours rest between practices.  

http://www.cifss.org/pdfs/bluebook.pdf

pg. 119

Doubles are not against CIF you ass hat.

A. All teams will be allowed no more than eighteen (18) hours of practice time per week and no more than four (4) hours in any single day.

(1) Great Oak Multiple Practice Sessions:

a. Double day practices shall be held every day.

b. Must include a minimum of three (3) hours rest between practices.

c. Must be running at least ten (10) miles per day.

d. Must be racing at least four (4) events per week.

e. Must go for a personal record (PR) at least twice (2) per week.

http://www.cifss.org/pdfs/bluebook.pdf

pg. 119

Oh here we GO wrote:

What does that guys statement have to do with being raciest? Lets play that card you dork! The fact of the mater is that DC kid does seem to have a bad attitude!

okay but where do you get the idea that she "seems to have a bad attitude"? you've said that twice but you have nothing to support that...

So back to the subject.... How is the team doing now? Have they gotten better? Do they now have seven girls under 10:50?

It looks like they just had 5 qualify for CIF inthe 3200 I thought they would have the entire team lol...Not sure what happened maybe they stacked the 1600 not sure. Now that I think about it they had 7 under 11 why only 5 go to CIF?

How about the boys! And Cortes came back to run 1:51

Event 16 Boys 1600 Meter Run Boys Division 1

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Name Year School Prelims H#

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Preliminaries

1 Brandt, Robert 12 Loyola 4:09.06Q 1

2 Spencer, Cole 11 Great Oak 4:12.33Q 3

3 Cortes, Isaac 11 Great Oak 4:12.35Q 2

4 Dodds, Spencer 11 Great Oak 4:09.31q 1

5 Ogden, Jake 11 Dana Hills 4:13.63q 3

6 Janes, Tyler 11 King, M.L. 4:13.65q 3

7 Gleason, George 12 Huntington Beach 4:14.55q 1

8 Comeaux, Ethan 10 Redondo Union 4:17.19q 2

What happened to their newest star Kiyena Beatty?

Why wasn't she at CIF Prelims?

I bet all the negativity in this thread is coming from one or two people. bonus points awarded if that IP is from New York.

Kiyena had a strained calf muscle and was really sick at league finals and was not able to continue the season. She decided to rest and get ready for the cross country season, as that is higher on her priority list.

great joke wrote:

10:50.83 Desiree Stinger (11)

10:53.29 Sandra Pflughoft (9)

10:53.91 Emily Clause (11)

10:54.28 Destiny Collins (11)

10:54.50 Kiyena Beatty (10)

10:55.51 Evelyn Mandel (10)

10:57.45 Sydney Belus (10)

This has to be the most sub eleven girls from one team in one season ever, right? And all are underclassmen too. How this team did not win Nike Cross Nationals last fall is beyond me. I would be surprised if they didn't win this year.

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The first question any college coach will ask is: "At what price." What was the cost of churning out some of these runners at a much faster pace? How drained was the athlete once he or she went to college? Burnout is alive and well in California high school running. Use a kid up, and watch them fall apart in college. It happens all of the time.

Why is this such a big deal. That school is always raising the bar this shouldn't be such a shock. I've talked with their coach before and he said his athletes set their goals and he helps them achieve them. So what do you mean by at what cost? There is no cost. They are achieving their goals that they set because that's what they WANT to do. No one is making them run.

7 rounds = California State CIF FinalistLeague PrelimLeague FinalsSection PrelimSection FinalsCIF SS ChampionshipsState PrelimState FinalsBrooks Nationals or New Balance Outdoor NationalsUSATF Junior Olympics QualiferUSATF Junior Olympics PrelimsUSATF Junior Olympics Finals

Burnout King wrote:

[quote]great joke wrote:

10:50.83 Desiree Stinger (11)

10:53.29 Sandra Pflughoft (9)

10:53.91 Emily Clause (11)

10:54.28 Destiny Collins (11)

10:54.50 Kiyena Beatty (10)

10:55.51 Evelyn Mandel (10)

10:57.45 Sydney Belus (10)

This has to be the most sub eleven girls from one team in one season ever, right? And all are underclassmen too.

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Womens 1600 Meter Run Girls Division 1 Prelims

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Name Year School Finals

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1 Collins, Destiny 11 Great Oak 4:47.33

2 Belus, Sydney 10 Great Oak 4:53.80

3 Vasquez, Lisa 12 Warren 5:02.58

4 Sienski, Julia 12 Edison 4:55.31

5 Mandel, Evelyn 10 Great Oak 4:56.79

6 Ortega, Stefanie Y 11 Segerstrom 4:56.87

7 Melnyk, Megan 12 Crescenta Valley 5:01.79

8 Garcia-Swantek, Arianna 12 Yucaipa 5:02.71

9 Tanaka, Melissa 10 Poly (Long Beach) 5:04.15

10 Brunstein, Natasha 12 Mira Costa 5:05.32

11 Carroll, Kelsey 12 San Clemente 5:05.39

12 Bell, Melissa 12 Camarillo 5:05.46

13 Adams, Tahlia 9 Roosevelt 5:06.13

14 Lung, Holly 10 Arcadia 5:06.41

15 Mason, Mackenna 10 Yucaipa 5:07.00

16 Sandoval, Jennifer 11 Summit 5:10.50

17 Demerjian, Kalie 12 El Toro 5:11.31

18 Almanza, Valerie 10 Channel Islands 5:11.86

19 Hoang, Cindy 10 Arcadia 5:14.20

20 Pederson, Nicole 12 Redondo Union 5:14.53

21 Rosales, Brenda 10 Poly (Long Beach) 5:14.56

22 Serrao, Sienna 11 Dana Hills 5:15.24

23 Sanchez, Emily 12 King, M.L. 5:15.70

24 Stetkevick, Alexandra 11 Poly (Riverside) 5:16.94

25 Staton, Grace 9 Chino Hills 5:20.77

26 Rodriguez, Marissa 10 La Quinta (L.Q.) 5:23.32

27 Almasy, Ashlynn 10 Los Alamitos 5:24.08

28 Miranda, Tayler 10 Knight 5:24.08

29 Martinez, Brittney 12 Downey 5:24.66

30 Maretti, Megan 11 Rancho Cucamonga 5:25.17

31 Kaye, Marina 10 Poly (Riverside) 5:25.50

32 Marrero, Brittany 10 Roosevelt 5:26.53

33 Trunnelle, Brooke 12 Alta Loma 5:26.59

34 Malta, Citlalli 11 Katella 5:26.91

35 Wainfan, Mandy 11 Poly (Long Beach) 5:30.97

36 Pluma, Marissa 12 Warren 5:31.18

37 Garfias, Alexis 12 Schurr 5:33.55

38 Sturm, Anya 9 Santa Monica 5:34.40

39 Segovia, Alyssa 9 Alta Loma 5:37.38

40 Allen, Alyssa 12 Cypress 5:38.27

41 Guajardo, Yaneli 10 Alhambra 5:39.41

Womens 3200 Meter Run Girls Division 1 Prelims

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Name Year School Finals

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1 Collins, Destiny 11 Great Oak 10:26.82

2 Izzo, Katie 12 Los Alamitos 10:38.08

3 Mandel, Evelyn 10 Great Oak 10:47.85

4 Pflughoft, Sandra 9 Great Oak 10:48.46

5 Belus, Sydney 10 Great Oak 10:48.53

6 Sienski, Julia 12 Edison 10:50.88

7 Sandoval, Jennifer 11 Summit 10:54.74

8 Stinger, Desi 11 Great Oak 10:57.04

9 Herrmann, Sabrina 12 Trabuco Hills 10:59.11

10 Penn, Rylee 9 Centennial/Corona 11:02.62

11 Carroll, Kelsey 12 San Clemente 11:03.32

12 Kaloroumakis, Kathryn 10 Dana Hills 11:09.52

13 Tabares, Samantha 11 Warren 11:11.19

14 Cahalan, Ashley 12 Vista Murrieta 11:15.10

15 Ortega, Stefanie Y 11 Segerstrom 11:16.59

16 Fernandez, Candela 11 Burbank 11:19.99

17 Hurtado, Gwendolyn 11 Warren 11:21.35

18 Margolis, Bailee 12 Trabuco Hills 11:23.49

19 Parr, Madison 9 Yucaipa 11:24.26

20 Gee, Sarah 9 Yucaipa 11:25.68

21 Silva, Thalia 12 Redondo Union 11:30.80

22 Virtue, Emily 9 Burroughs/Burbank 11:33.80

23 Almanza, Valerie 10 Channel Islands 11:34.99

24 Cacho, Ilse 12 California 11:37.27

25 Fillipow, Lauren 10 Poly (Long Beach) 11:37.83

26 Maretti, Megan 11 Rancho Cucamonga 11:38.89

27 Staton, Grace 9 Chino Hills 11:39.21

28 Morales, Esmerelda 10 El Rancho 11:43.07

29 Valdez, Julia 10 Poly (Riverside) 11:48.22

30 Ward, Avery 12 Mira Costa 11:49.29

31 Stetkevick, Alexandra 11 Poly (Riverside) 11:50.87

32 Barron, Paloma 9 Roosevelt 11:52.58

33 Haring, Alyssa 11 King, M.L. 11:54.56

34 Sturm, Anya 9 Santa Monica 11:55.53

35 Esparza, Emily 9 La Quinta (L.Q.) 12:04.97

36 Galvan, Karina 10 Walnut 12:05.29

37 O'leary, Fiona 9 Poly (Long Beach) 12:07.03

38 Rodriguez, Marissa 10 La Quinta (L.Q.) 12:10.03

39 Hernandez, Anamauri 11 Segerstrom 12:11.95

40 Betart, Anahi 12 Walnut 12:12.59

41 Cano, Liz 9 Schurr 12:19.00

42 Gleason, Olivia 10 Poly (Long Beach) 12:20.91

43 Holton, Erin 10 Rancho Cucamonga 12:21.84

44 Sanchez, Allison 11 Downey 12:23.84

45 Hernandez, Hazel 12 Anaheim 12:36.46